1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

Wrestling: Random babbling

Discussion in 'Colosseum' started by Disciple of The Watch, Dec 21, 2006.

  1. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    More on Judas Mesias...

    According to what I've heard, he also took a bad fall from a ladder set up in the ring (while wrestling in AAA) straight to the floor with nobody to break the fall. He was knocked out upon landing, and never mind the sciatica he's also suffering from. He'll need several weeks of rest plus physical therapy.

    I'm so freaking pissed off to see Mesias shelved so soon after his debut. I like this guy. I like his violent, sadistic ways.

    As for this week's iMPACT... Mesias might have backed down from Rhyno this week, and the babyfaces will be standing tall in the next iMPACT, true... but it doesen't stop there. Jim Mitchell has a couple of aces up his sleeves.

    You know what was the funniest part about the "wedding"? The "heart attack" was caused by the "Viagra" peanuthead "took". He's "slipping in and out of consciousness", according to WWE.com.

    Whatever.

    Taker vs Henry... can you say Unforgiven, part 2? Batista vs The Plan B? Oh please. Batista has nowhere near the resilience of the Deadman.
     
  2. The Shaman Gems: 28/31
    Latest gem: Star Sapphire


    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    54
    I can't help but wonder... Will Khali get to win at least one of his big matches? It's rather sad how every time he winds up so much for a big game and then he loses. The one to Cena was especially absurd.
     
  3. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    The loss to Cena was written in the sky. Nobody can beat Cena. Cena is invincible. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    As for the Plan B, he has poor in-ring skills and is truly boring to watch. This guy holding the WHC was a disgrace to the legacy of the title.

    Nontheless, I think the Plan B will pull out a victory against Batista in the PPM. Batista is nowhere as near resilient as the Deadman.

    As for TNA, some of their big names have mentioned wanting out - Homicide, Hernandez, Sabin, Shelley and finally the Hippie (which I'm not counting as a big name). Some of them want to leave to wrestle in Japan. TNA is holding them, promising them more TV time once the show expands to two hours.

    Will they keep that promise, I wonder?
     
  4. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    They lose the first four, it's a huge blow. If Hippie Dutt and Black Moronic were to grow a set and turn on Kevin Trash, they'd be more useful to the company too...
     
  5. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Hmph. Yeah, it would be a blow, but a deserved one, let me tell you. Morale is very, very low in TNA, and they've done next to nothing to improve it.

    The hallowed two-hour timeslow is considered by TNA their salvation - they can give more airtime to deserving superstars. You should give more airtime to the X-Division, to which you've been promising their chance to shine for quite a while, not focus on a stupid Woman's Division!

    I don't know about you guys, but I watch wrestling for the *action* not because I'm a horndog drooling in front of the "Knockouts". That's why I like NOAH (in which woman are absent whatsoever) and RoH - except for Lacey, Alison Danger & Jade Cheung (which are all valets in RoH), the action is focused on *wrestling*, not on being the Playboy channel!

    Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Let's dissect all the guys who want out:

    Homicide - I can see him returning to RoH and pursuing more of those insane feuds, like the one with Cabana. Could be Japan material too, as a Tag team with Hernandez.

    Hernandez - This guy should definitively head to Japan. If he was to join a Japanese promotion with Homicide, they would be an insane tag team with immense potential (which TNA are wasting).

    Sabin - He's a four-time X-Division champ. He's talented. He's a good heel. I think he made an appearance or two in RoH, for the World Championship against RoH's own Cena, Bryan Danielson. Unsurprisingly, he lost. Anyway, I see this guy back on the independent circuit.

    Shelley - Another very talented guy. Any of you remember his Embassy days in RoH? Though the faction ultimately lost a feud - nah, a war -against Generation Next, they put up one hell of a fight. Definitively RoH material.

    And speaking of the Embassy, I cannot NOT mention Jimmy Rave. It's no big secret he's in TNA now, and what I feared has come true - they're jobbing him to idiots like Eric Young. F*** you, TNA! Rave is MAIN-EVENT material, not a FREAKING JOBBER!

    Hippie - I could care less where he goes or what he does. This can can FOAD for all I care. Remember Fallen Angel VS Black Moronic? That freaking hippie was litteraly pissing me off with that stupid tambourine or whatever crap he was playing. It was almost worst than Melina at ringside during a Nitro match, or Ariel at ringside during a Thorn match. Anyway, back to the hippie. What a stupid gimmick, anyway. The Xplosion match VS Storm was hilarious - hippie hugged Storm, who promptly punched the s*** out of the freaking hippie.

    He finally got laid to waste by a superkick. You're my hero, Storm.

    BTW, I cannot NOT mention last night's Raw. They've teased us about the moronic rapper surrendering the title. I was jumping for joy. But NOOOOO, the Little Bastard decides to give the moronic idiots what they want, and let him keep that ugly bling, and put the Invincible VS Coach in a table match.

    ARGHHHHHH! F*** YOU, WWE! Unless you're planning on handing the title to the Legend Killer at NM, YOU'RE F****** IDIOTS! I HATE CENA AND I HATE HIS BLING!

    Legend Killer for Champ!
     
  6. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Here's a good article about what's wrong with WWE I thought I'd share with you guys. It was written by Josh at OWW, and I echo his thoughts - he has pretty much nailed it on the head.

     
  7. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    Like I've said before: The first step to fixing the WWE is to fire everyone with the last name McMahon...
     
  8. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Vickie Guerrero seems to be the only GM with common sense. Hornswoggle was stripped of the Cruiserweight title during tonight's Smackdown (which did NOT played on FOX - WTF?!?).

    The Deadman also annihilated Mark Henry. The Phenom is back, better than ever.

    There are rumors floating around that Y2J will return to WWE, at No Mercy, to be precise. That would be freaking sweet, let me tell you.

    And BTW, did you know the reason why TNA hasn't picked up Paul Heyman? WWE has kept him under contract because they know he could use his mad scientist skills to skyrocket TNA to serious competition.

    Flair has appearantly changed his tune regarding his release... but he plans on retiring in 2008.
     
  9. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    With Hornswoggle taking on a more prominent role on Raw, releasing the Cruiserweight belt only makes sense.

    I've got mixed feelings about Y2J. When I last saw him on WWE, his gimmick seemed kind of stale. If they let him trade jabs with Cena, then they may have a winner. It would make Cena almost watchable until he tried to wrestle...

    I suspect that Vince has a few people he's paying off to keep away from the competition. Heyman and Bischoff for sure, but I bet he's slipping cash to the Rock to keep him from getting any ideas about TNA (even for a one night pay off). I also wouldn't be surprised if Terry Funk was getting something under the table from Vince. From what I've seen and read, Funk was a key player in the development of talent in ECW, and Vince doesn't want that in TNA...

    Flair should hang up the tights. He'll be another one that Vince pays off to keep away from the competition. A veteran like him could really help developing talent. The last thing Vince wants (as evidence by Cena's title reign, unless he has some pictures on Vince...).

    Something else I heard: The Great Khali used to actually wrestle in Japan before coming to WWE. Maybe he could actually get over if Vince would take the reigns off him...
     
  10. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Stripping Hornswoggle of the title also opens up the door for some real cruiserweight action. Yang, Moore, Noble - these guys put up one hell of a show - certainly better than a leprauchaun hiding under the ring.

    The Rock in TNA? *shudder* I hope this day never happens.

    Terry Funk... I didn't thought about him, but you're right, he could be a major asset should TNA get their heads out of their arses and start a hardcore division. Man, this guy has some insane matches.

    Yes, Khali wrestled in Japan, it's mentioned in the article, which leads me to assume you didn't read it. :shake:

    Khali could really be an unstoppable juggernaut, if his repertoire was not limited to 10 moves. He was actually a very good wrestler in Japan.
     
  11. The Shaman Gems: 28/31
    Latest gem: Star Sapphire


    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    54
    In the light of that article, I can't help be somewhat confused about the reasons for limiting Khali (why do you call him Plan B anyway?). If he's "jobbing" to people anyway, why wouldn't he be allowed to use more moves than he's currently using now (I admit, quite a few)? Unless they think that him showing a little technique would detract from his "juggernaut" image - or make his losses look fake (which, imo, they still do). Both don't strike me as especially likely. A third possibility is that some of the moves he knows are more likely to cause lasting injury to him or his opponents, yet I presume he is professional enough to know the difference.
     
  12. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Why do I call him the Plan B? Well, there was a wrestling forum - cannot quite remember which one - where I used to hang out who coined Khali the Plan B. I don't really remember why, TBT.

    But back to the Plan B. I'm no longer taking this guy seriously after he jobbed to the idiot who holds the ugly arse WWE bling. The Plan B, the same guy who took the Deadman to his limits couldn't beat the moronic rapper?

    Oh, crap, slap me for being such an idiot. I forgot that the moronic rapper is invincible and that nobody can beat him.

    As for juggernauts in general, they don't have to be stuck with a tiny repertoire of moves to be effective. It's just that WWE is deathly afraid of their talent injuring themselves.

    I mean, when was the last time we saw a truly bloody and violent match on WWE programming? It dates so far back I can't even remember. It's unlikely to be seen in any distant future, because, we're dealing with *sports entertainment*, not *professional wrestling*.

    I'm not saying that TNA is perfect, but they put up a *lot* more violent matches, or even simply violent promos, like Judas Mesias' debut ripping the arms of Abyss open with a shard of glass, or the numerous beatdowns the Coalition served to Abyss with the barbed wire bat, for example. Speaking of barbed wire, I can't go on without naming Sabu and Abyss in a Barbed Wire match. Or Raven vs Sandman in a Clockwork Orange. Or Raven vs Abyss in a Dog Collar match for the title. Or Cage vs Abyss in the six sides of steel when Abyss got Unprettiered into a pile of thumbtacks. Or when Abyss got double-handed chokeslammed by Tomko in broken glass and thumbtacs.

    But back to the topic at hand, the Plan B. In Japan, he was used at a much higher level of potential than he is currently being used on WWE programming. Then again, in Japan it's *professional wrestling*, not *sports entertainment*.

    Seriously, WWE, pull your heads out of your arses and put on some good violent matches every now and then. I suppose I've been watching too much MMA, Japanese wrestling and old TNA, because watching WWE for me is like watching grass grow or paint dry - it's freaking boring. Now -- I already knew that, but it's getting worst and worst.

    *EDIT*

    Today is a historic day, my friends.

    Our prayers have been answered. The WWE Title is now VACANT. CENA IS OUT FOR 6-8 MONTHS!!!!

    :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
    Man, hearing that makes me more euphoric than a whole day sniffing nitrous oxide!

    Good riddance, moronic rapper! Good riddance, ugly bling!

    :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

    [ October 03, 2007, 05:26: Message edited by: Disciple of The Watch ]
     
  13. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    Actually DotW, I did read the article, and if I had scrolled up, I'd have remembered where I read that Khali wrestled in Japan. Really need to pay more attention to my posts...

    I think that Vince may be gun shy about more adult content and heavy violence because the WWE is the most prominent promotion in the industry, and as such, the favoured targets of some watchdog groups, like the Parent's Television Council. These groups will see the violent content and are prone to harrass the WWE in the press. Coming off the horrific deaths of Chris Benoit and his family and the recent Steroids probe, that would be the last thing Vince needs...

    And to think I went to bed about 20 minuted to 2 because I didn't feel like stayig up to watch another main event with John Seen-it...

    What does this do to the PPV however?
     
  14. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Well... with Cena out and the WWE championship vacant, it's a golden opportunity for the Legend Killer, Ken Kennedy and the others that were after the title.

    I'm not sure what they have in mind for this Sunday. We know for sure the Legend Killer wants the title... and so does the returning Ken Kennedy. Don't count out the King of Kings, and maybe also the returning Hardcore Holly. Lashley was after the title, and if Kennedy didn't shelved him, he would have went after the title.

    An open challenge like the one at Vengeance is the most plausible scenario to me.
     
  15. The Shaman Gems: 28/31
    Latest gem: Star Sapphire


    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    54
    Actually, I'm wondering about Kane. He's been involved in a few feuds, but I haven't seen him with a title in awhile, and I think he has more than enough potential. An open challenge would be a good option, but I can't help but think that it will most likely produce a "surprise" twist which I won't really like. BTW, is Lashley out for good at the moment? I've wondered if he's not taking steroids - his body looks like that of a certain US Governor in his prime - but if not, he should be pushed more imo.

    And as for the violent matches and sometimes inane plots, you can guess the reason any time the camera points at the public. I get the feeling that at least 15% of the audience is composed of kids under 14, or people who would faint if they saw a seriously bloody match. WWE is being pushed towards the mainstream programming, so anything that could detract from such popular appeal is a no-no. Hence the "diva" eye-candy - although this might weaken their "wholesome family entertainment" a little, it probably wins them more audience than it loses (at least I think that's the theory). Who ever coined the term "diva" for female wrestlers, anyway?

    [ October 03, 2007, 11:56: Message edited by: The Shaman ]
     
  16. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    I would love to see Kane win the title. They have him Jobbing to too many people. Mind you I'd love to see Khali crush that little punk Ornton too...

    I was reading in Eric Bischoff's book that they chose to go for the 18 to 39 demographic as opposed to the teenager demographic. I guess that WWE has chosen their demographic...
     
  17. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    As much as I am a Kane fan... remember this is the Raw title we're talking about, not the Smackdown title.

    So unless they're planning to make Kane jump back to Raw (which wouldn't be a very good more - Raw is a legitimate talent graveyard), I doubt we'll see Kane wearing any gold anytime soon... except maybe Tag Team gold.

    Think about it: If Boogeyman didn't got thrown on Extremely Crappy Wrestling (let's face it - "ECW" is but developmental territory), the two of them could have challenged for and won the Tag Titles.

    Or, Kane & Undertaker could once again be the Brothers of Destruction and make a run for the Tag titles, after his WHC one... Undertaker could end his illustrious career while double champion.

    And as for "divas", I've often openly voiced my dislike of those. And I still do. Don't get me wrong, I love woman - but if I want to see half-naked s**** prancing around, I'll f****** order and watch the Playboy channel.

    While we're on the subject of "divas", there's a point I'd like to bring up -- TNA's new "Women's Division". I think this is a gargantuesque-sized mistake. The switch to storyline-based shows was a bad enough mistake, and now that?

    TNA, you've been promising your X-Division talent the place in the spotlight they rightfully deserve for years. That extra hour should be used to fulfill that promise, not give us more of that inane woman's wrestling.

    Bah, excuse me while I go back to watch Japanese wrestling - the only thing worthy of being called wrestling.
     
  18. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    Sounds like The Brothers of Destruction are getting a title shot (after what I saw on Smackdown).

    TNA seems to have some depth to the tag Team division (assuming that they don't lose half of it to their own mismanagement).

    It will be interesting to see what TNA does with a two hour block, and if they can make it good enough to convince me to turn away from the Leaf's games on Thursday nights--or stay up an extra hour later Saturday nights when I have to get up at 6 am...
     
  19. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, maybe my prediction of Undertaker retiring as double-champ might come true after all. Sniff more common sense vapors, WWE.

    No Mercy is tomorrow. I'm curious as to who will inherit the moronic rapper's uglyarse bling. I also want to see HHH obliterate Umaga. The rest of the matches I couldn't possibly care less.

    As for TNA, the first two-hour show wasn't too bad. There were some pretty stupid, useless and boring matches - "knockouts" action, which I could care less about, a 10-man gauntlet (Storm was ROBBED!), and an 8-man Tag team match. I don't need to say how it came out - the +@!#)*(%^+@+%@#&)(&@+) faces won all the matches. TNA... unless you're planning a heel domination in the nearby future... give me a break with your +_!@#&*($+_@#^+_% faces.
     
  20. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2004
    Messages:
    5,423
    Likes Received:
    30
    I heard from a friend on a Wrestling RP site that HHH won the belt only to drop it to Ornton, and that Batista beat Khali. Was too disgusted to ask about the rest of the night...
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.