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Two more days - Diablo 3!!!?

Discussion in 'Diablo 3 & 4' started by Apeman, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. Maertyn

    Maertyn There's nothing I cannot embrace! ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    I had a rule of doing certain quests on my own because it just felt great. Take the whole of chapter 5 for example (good rp there, too!). Other quests (chapter 3 comes to mind - mind-numbing!!) I always did in a group and sometimes even with high-level characters.
     
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    This will be hugely addictive and I will be late for school (if it comes out during my last three years at the uni :p)
     
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    Get a quick boost through the acts from on or two high level friends. You only need a few quests for that. Kill Andariel in act 1, complete the staff in act 2 and kill Duriel, kill the travincal guards and Mephisto in act 3, Diablo in act 4. Join a tomb-run game online and level to 24 (goes pretty quick) and kill the ancients with help. Do baalruns until about level 55 (you level up very fast there). Kill Baal. Get a boost through Nightmare (no need for tombruns here). Level up to level 70. Get a boost through hell, find a good Baalrun-game and run until level 80. Only takes a couple of hours :)

    Works great, epecially with a sorceress with teleportation. I guess there are even builds for the best boost-characters :D
     
  4. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    Oh, Act III is without doubt the worst. Between swarms of flayers that run away, gloams blasting you with lightning and stygian dolls blowing up in your face, I can understand your desire to rush through Act III. Then again, Mephisto is at the end of Act III, and he's probably the most run boss in the game.

    Indeed it is.
     
  5. Apeman Gems: 25/31
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    I think they managed to find some balance in between boss fights and doing quests with the later patches. There are some areas in hell difficulty that can drop the best level items. I found my best items from random uniques.

    I also always clear every area in (almost) every difficulty just so I didn't miss it. My characters are usually a long term project. It's just how you approach the game IMO.
     
  6. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

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    Damn, and I'm STILL playing D2...
     
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    Has anyone found a potential release date?
     
  8. Gothmog

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    I absolutely love they've resisted the temptation to make a complete 3D world with rotating cameras, extreme zooms and all the nonsense of modern rpg's. Very few engines beat infinity engine for me. Isometric view for the win!

    I caught some intel it's likely to be released in early summer '09. At least that's been blizzard's tradition so far. IMO it's great they take their time and polish the game until they're satisfied with it themselves (Atari anyone? -.-)


    Oh, i've watched the denizens panel stream, they talked about d3 world a bit. The part that caught my attention was the answer to the question whether players will be able to respecc skills, the answer was waaay in the positive :(
    Seems like we'll have wow-like style of every class being one spec. Booring :(
     
  9. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    That's interesting because there's no comparing either D1 or D2 to a real RPG, like say, BG2 or PST. I'm glad that the designers of Diablo have admited that their previous games were fairly light RPGs, but more action-based games. I played through D2 twice and liked it for what it was, which was not an RPG. I'm looking forward to see if they can create a real RPG, or if this will be more of the same with increased eye-candy.

    I've always liked Diablo for its intense environments and Gothic artwork, despite looking very dated these days. How old is D2? I can't even remember when it was released. But it looks as if its about to get a "beautiful," yet still very Gothic, facelift.
     
  10. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    Diablo 2 was released in 2000... I can't believe it's been 8 years already. And it looked crappy even back when it was released. :shake:
     
  11. Disciple of The Watch

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    D2 might be ugly, but I personally do not judge a game by it's graphics. Hell, I just got off Might and Magic 1. Laughable graphics, PC speaker noise is annoying as F, but this is still one of the best games I ever played.
     
  12. Marceror

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    This is pretty exciting news. I'm sure this game will be plenty entertaining, though I don't think we should hold our breath for it. Blizzard is known for taking their time.

    This time I plan to play the entire game in single player before I start multiplayer. In D2, the game got slightly ruined when I grouped up with friends after launching the game for the first time, blinked, and was like level 25. :/
     
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    There will probably be a lot more RPG elements, but the action was always the strong point. For some reason I never tired of left clicking incessantly in Diablo, yet have never replayed the Icewind Dale games which were also dungeon crawls but heavier on the RPG side.
     
  14. Gothmog

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    I admit, there's more differences between the games than similarities, even if both belong under RPG genre by most common criteria. Singleplayer vs. co-op, enjoying the story vs. using the enviroment as means to improve your character. In type of view category though, their sucessors both went for full 3D cameras (nwn, mmorpg's), whereas d3 continues to hold on to isometric view. kudos to them.


    As for blizz making d3 "more RPG", i strongly doubt it. The audience is far wider than classic rpg's has. The main aspect of singleplayer cannot be other than click-fest, fun as it is, it's not our type of game. The focus of the game cannot be other than battle.net.
     
  15. Proteus_za

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    If they could somehow blend a Baldurs Gate type RPG with a Diablo action RPG, I think I'll be in heaven.

    As it is, I'm much more excited for this than for any other game. I played D2 a lot this year, finished it a few times and nearly released a minor mod (got bored when all of my rune words suddenly stopped working).
     
  16. Taluntain

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    My beef with it wasn't the bad graphics, but that the sequel's graphics was worse than in the original. Now THAT's not something seen every day. Normally I pay little attention to graphics, but when your first thought after installing D2 is "good lord, this looks worse than the original", it's not really encouraging.

    As for hopes that Blizzard will make Diablo more of an RPG this time around - all I can say is, futile hopes. The Diablo series has a huge market as it is. Making it more of an RPG would only alienate much of its customer base so there's really no good reason why Blizzard would want to deliver anything but D2 with a minor face lift this time around. More complex CRPGs are niche products today.
     
  17. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    Two points: In the game play trailer, it doesn't look like D3 is going to be any more of an RPG that it's predessors. While they say there are more quest like elements in D3, it is still going to be mass monsters and hack and slash for the most part.

    The graphics do appear to be greatly enhanced in this version, and a fully interactive environment looks cool too.

    Oh, and one more bonus point: I'd be highly surprised if D3 is out one year from now - SC2 is coming out first, and they haven't even announced an official release date for that yet.
     
  18. Proteus_za

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    They did say that they are adding dynamic and somewhat random miniquests, so that each playthrough is different both in terms of dungeon randomization, and also in terms of the minor quests you have to do. That sounds good to me - more incentive to kill monsters than just because they drop stuff.
     
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    To quote a fried of mine:
    "You didn't play Arcanum because of it's graphics? Oh yes and I read picture books because I need visuals to understand a good storyline"



    Edit: I just found this:

    Not that I'm picking on you Tal, it's just that if a popular game has bad graphics it's not played because of those graphics ;)

    Edit: I just found this: http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/frostwake/Diablo31.jpg
    If Diablo 3 looks like how this guy pictures it, then Blizzard would be rolling in cash.
     
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  20. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    "Good storyline" and the topic of D2 just don't seem to go together....

    I liked the original Icewind game and replayed it more times than I did D2.
     
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