Tiamat, Grendel, and a few others

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I never noticed that...how odd.

 

Sorry if i'm a bit late to post here but Math, you made some mistakes regarding the norse mythology.
The Fenris wolf, Jormugand (never knew it was called that) and Hel (the lady of the death world) was the kids Loke had with Angerboda.
Sleipner is also his child though. He polymorphed himself into a mare (A story i don't want to tell right now...) And had Sleipnar with the male horse Svadilfare.
I have been studying norse mytholigy for quite a while now. And it was in fact my biggest hobby 3 years back.

 

Well, this is what I know about some of them. It's not much help after all these posts but maybe some do care.
It's all in Dutch here and I don't know how to translate some things and names may be spelled different.

Tiamat: (Babylonian version) Goddess of Seas and Oceans, paired with Apsoe, the God of rivers and lakes. They got a lot of children. One of them was Ea, the father of Mardoek. Ea killed Apsoe and in revenge Tiamat fighted Ea and the younger gods with a horde of bloodthirsty monsters. These younger gods chose Mardoek as their leader. Mardoek killed Tiamat and chopped her body into 2 pieces: heaven and earth.
Tiamat was often pictured/represented as a monster or dragon. This was symbolizing the 'very chaos' that had to be vanquished before an arranged cosmos could be possible.

Leviathan was a sea-monster in the Bible. (Job)

I dont see any differences with Math's and Tasohans stories: IIRC, you both say that Loki was the father of Sleipnir, Hel, Fenrir and the serpant. Loki is a cool char, btw. I like this 'Trickster'. Did some good things for the gods but also was their biggest enemy. (He killed Balder, f/exm)

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Jormugand is same as te fenris wolf, son of loke, the one who killed Odin. Oh this was already stated, made a special work in school about our myrholigy, iam swedish.) Graendel isnt that a female forsaken in the wheel of time? Jordan have borrowed much from the bible, look on male forsaken, they were angels. Gaebril (gabriel), and his other name Rahvin (rafael), ok have forgotten all the others but they hav an angelic name to.....

Bhaal is a demon in the bible.
Leviathan is satan i think in disguise...

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Mmmh, about Bhaal...
Never saw that name in the Bible, except for Baäl (or Baälim), the the fertility god of the Philistinines. There were more Baäls, one of them is said to be some kind of devil (Baäl-Zebub...Beëlzebul/other spellings)

Leviathan was only mentioned once in the bible and it was a sea monster. The name Leviathan is used for other seamonsters as well, so a crocodile (sp?) could be one, too.

Did a search on the web: http://members.aol.com/biblesci/science/
It mentiones some things abot popes and visions etc. I'm a protestant, so what the pope sais is not important to me....

 

The difference between my story and Maths is Loki only had Sleipnar with the male horse Svadilfare. He had the three others with a female giant called Angerboda.

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On Baal, that's an old word from the devil. Pretty interesting (although definitely not a coincidence) that the Lord of Destruction (in Diablo II), and the God of Murder in FR (well, okay, it's Bhaal) are evil gods, connected in spelling with Baal.

Ba'alsevulv was Hebrew for the devil. It meant Lord of the Flies. Translated into Greek, it becomes Beezelebulb. One can see how you get Baal from that.

 

OK, But Lord of the Flies was such an amazing book.. incredible work by Golding.

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Baal is Beelzebub? I thought they where 2 difrent devils/demons!

About the lord of flies: Is that Beelzebub? I think I must check The Satanic Bible again, I thought Lucifer was the lord of flies!