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The Donald

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by The Great Snook, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Nakia

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    Yes. :(
     
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    Lols - reports in the past couple of days say China has launched a satellite with a 'Quantum' computer aboard = game over if they put other than rubbish in it
     
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    Wonder if Neil DeGrasse Tyson know about this. I would like to know more about that report. Is it speculation or fact? Game over if China has developed a quantum computer. They are light years ahead of us if so.
     
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    It was in one of the Daily London 'free' newspapers - either the Metro or the Standard

    and I caught a Tweet about it too

    Still, no matter how fast a computer is you have to have the software -

    If I can see design software their quantum computer would take a million years to crack so can others. but will they?
     
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    Quantum Mechanics is not easy to understand or master if they have the brains to build a quantum computer they have the brains to design the software and use it. This could leave us so far behind we won't even see their dust. They will be able to hack in to top secrets of any nation and no one will even know it. That is just the beginning.
     
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    You are confusing speed with ability - if software is designed properly the fastest computer in the Universe could not hack it within the given design parameter designated period - again the question is how smart defence systems designers etc are
     
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    I don't think I am. Math was my strong talent. Although I am by no stretch of the imagination a Quantum physicist I do know a little about it. It is the study of extremely small, the unseen. What I am trying to say is that if they are smart enough to build a true quantum computer they are smart enough to use it; How they use it we will find out too late.
     
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    they will probably use it to pinpoint suitable targets for kidnapping and organ harvesting as they have been doing to the Falun Gong and Thibetans
     
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    I think they would be seriously considering world domination. The possibilities of its use are astronomical.
     
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    More likely they will be looking at ways to get rich ^^ greed is a trait of their culture
     
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    Most cultures.
     
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    true - but while some of the most generous pepole I have met recently are Chinese their culture generally take it to extremes
     
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    Years ago when I first met up with the Chinese culture I did realize that it differs from ours. Did before the communist takeover and that didn't change. Any of our politicians who think that they , the Chinese, will think and react as we do are going to get us in deep trouble.
     
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    there is always the question of whether politicians actually think or only react without consciousness :rolleyes:
     
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    They think but tend in my opinion to think what they want to think. Especially the higher the office. Seems to me that they must beleive because they conned voters into voting for them that they are smarter than anyone else. They forget they are dealing with foreign con artists who just may be smarter.
     
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    Or 'shock / horror' - simply more unscrupulous and able to 'get away with worse stuff' - the Nine Commentaries
     
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    The Chinese are smart always have been. Maybe partly because they didn't have one specific religion that forced them into a belief box. The Muslims in Baghdad did wonders in Math and science from 800 to 1100.
    Then their religion shut them down. Don't have time to go into that as I have a doctor's appointment to go to. I will return.
     
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    happy doctoring
     
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    Did some research on quantum computers. Haven't found the China news yet but came across this article from the Daily Science. It is basically links to various info and may be of interest to any one seeking more knowledge. From what I have seen I think it quite possible that China could have a Quantum computer. Surely Germany has one. They are the leaders in this type of thing.
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/news/computers_math/quantum_computers/
    Quantum Physics has been around since if I recall correctly the 1920's or 30's and is the basis for much of our modern technology.
    This is getting a bit off topic and really deserves a thread of its own but if our President and Congress aren't on the ball we will be left at the starting gate. If the next President doesn't grab those mysterious particles and finance the study of them we can't forget about "Make this Nation Great". Star Trek anticipated those strange particles. "Beam me up, Scotie." :)
     
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    Trump gets his support from those who are comparatively clueless and those who, having contempt for calculation, want to cause trouble. There are a lot of those. but they are not necessarily sub-normal = worrying. The problem comes from the Nazi party remaining legal in the US. So the bushes were able to worm their way into power despite their uncle who was convicted of 'giving aid and comfort to the enemy'.

    That may seem separate - but politicians follow political trends and so the left followed bush and co to the right ... hence Hillary and co.

    For decades it was agreed that it was best not to meddle in the middle east, but the Bushs had an agenda and carried it through - that made an impression and the rest follows.

    The other side as has been said is reality TV and shows based on demeaning participants. That made it socially acceptable to do so. So long as people laugh and no one shames the 'host' ...

    Combine the two with Hollywood politics - Reagan, the mentally incompetent darling - and you get Trump. And Trump does not even realise that he is a monster. Like a banker, he is a narcisist - incapable of understanding that he is doing something very wrong because the TV morality he follows supports him.

    Where you don't even have the pretence that you must behave in a certain way and are having fun ...

    my 2 trillion cents ;)

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    here ya goes - one quantum thread: http://www.sorcerers.net/community/index.php?threads/quantum-stuff-made-real.77908/
     
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