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The Donald

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by The Great Snook, Jul 21, 2015.

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    From what I've seen, the same could pretty much be said about all the other major runners. I don't envy you one bit. :shake:
     
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    Have any of you been following the hit pieces on trump that the New York Times has been pushing. This is going to be the most vicious election in history. I can't help but think the media is bringing a knife to a gun fight. I legitimately fear for the staff at some media outlets if trump wins.
     
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    So, Snook, just curious about your current thoughts on Trump now that the conventions are basically done and we swing into general election politicking. What did you think about his "hope" that the Russians should hack American servers?
     
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    Well, let's be honest here. He isn't asking the Russians to break in to the Pentagon, he is clearly saying that their hacking in to the DNC's servers and exposing the Democrats for what they are is a good thing. Personally, I wish the American media would do their job so the Russians didn't have to. Seeing the Wikileaks documents where members of the media are actively working with (and basically taking instructions) from DNC should scare way more people then it does.

    I stand by my earlier post, the hit jobs on Trump so far have been amazing, and they are just going to get worse. However, I believe their is a strong possibility that they still may not work against Trump, because of who he is.
     
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    Not that I'm a big Trump fan, but that whole story about asking the Russians to hack is ridiculous. First, from my perspective it sounded like a joke highlighting Hilary's corruption by pointing out how 33,000 emails went "missing" and what poor judgment she used (technically criminal) by using a private server for her official State Department business.

    But let's assume he wasn't joking for the sake of argument. You'd have to be naïve to think the Russians aren't hacking US servers already. I mean we (the US) are hacking everybody else including our allies. It is our (the US's) responsibility to protect ourselves from outside spying/hacking, not pretend like it's not going to happen. Which again highlights how stupid Hilary was to use her own private server with crappy security; I would be shocked if the Russians (and the Chinese for that matter) weren't all over that.
     
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    We have three choices, Trump, Clinton and Libertarian candidate. I have been checking out the Libertarian party and am still undecided. I followed both the Republican and Democratic conventions very closely. Trump may seem to have foot in mouth disease but he also gets a bad press. For me the main objection to Trump is his bedding down with the Evangelistic element of the Republican Party. I fervent in my support of church and state. God protect me for the fundamental god lovers. Enough said.

    Hillary I have never cared for and consider part of the establishment that got us into the mess we are in and that includes Republicans as well as Democrats.

    As for Russia hacking us that should accepted. Do not underestimate the Russians, Chinese, French, British or anyone else. i bet Mexico is watching us like a hawk. If Canada hasn't got a finger in the pie they had better jump in now.

    My opinion: We are in trouble, deep serious trouble and our world could come crashing down at any moment. Pessimistic? Maybe but I think it is reality.
     
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    I also am looking at the libertarian candidate. If he appears viable he will get my vote. I do not believe trump is in bed with the evangelicals.
     
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    My democracy has around a dozen parties. A coalition with a majority rules. We also have got a senate with limited powers. Most votes wins.

    Is it possible for the USA to create a third serious party as a counterweight forcing a coalition for a majority, or second round?
     
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    If all the people who dislike clinton and Trump voted Libertarian he could be viable.
    If Trump isn't in bed with the Evangelicals they are certainly sitting at the same table.
     
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    I think that has more to do with Clinton being the antichrist then trump being with them. They all wanted Cruz.
     
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    You are probably right but my dislike of people who want to mix politics and religion is extremely strong. Our Founding Fathers got that right. Keep the Church and the State separate. Vote your conscience but let me vote min. Personally I don't think Trump or Clinton either one have any god but themselves. Which is fine with me but don't mix the two things.
     
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    An American third party is highly unlikely. For one it is a very uphill battle just to get on the ballot in all 50 states. Then, if you were to get any press coverage here at all, it would be minimal and essentially write you off as a wasted vote or a general crackpot.

    Elections like this, where the majority dislikes both candidates yet they somehow won in their party anyway, are the best argument for one though.

    I've never seen the media lose all pretense of objectivity the way they have this election. I can't remember a single thing i've heard or read about Trump (outside of Fox News alone) that couldn't be described as a hit piece, and a nasty one at that.
     
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    I agree that the media is a problem but we do have a few independent politicians. Bernie Saunders was one and there are others. With the current dissatisfaction of voters I think there may be a possibility that we could get a third party that at least has some influence. I am posting on my FaceBook accounts reference to the Libertarian Party. I may not be crazy about it but it does have some viability. At least it is a start. I also believe that young voters may be more sympathetic to a third party. They use the social media, are on the Internet and still are capable of stepping out of the box. Young people can be very revolutionary. We did it in the 60s and 70s and they can certainly do it again. Don't underestimate our youth they are very sophisticated once they realize that there is a world out there beyond what their parents and grandparents have bound them to. They will make mistakes just as we oldies did but they can change the world.
     
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    Mrs Bruno went to Canada over the weekend. Someone at work asked why she was going. I deadpanned, "Getting a head start on finding a house, we don't like either candidate and want to beat the rush in November."

    The look on the person's face was priceless. I had to roll my eyes and say, "It's a joke...."
     
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    Good one, Bruno but I don't think you should have told them it was a joke. :) True, then they would probably have run around telling everyone you were moving to Canada. Gadzooks, if I had the money I would be tempted to move to Australia.
     
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    Watching the US presidential circus from the other side of the world in New Zealand. Is the whole thing as expensive and dysfunctional as it looks from here?
     
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    Just another reality show. :lol:
     
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    The olympics going on has meant the coverage on the american elections died down a bit, but even so i'm amazed that america goes through this whole circus every 4 years..
     
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    It just keeps getting worse, this election might be the straw that bkoke the camels back.
     
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