The Big Obama Administration Thread

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It all depends on who the candidates are as to whether any group is irrelevant.

The party in power is always smug and arrogant & the party not in power is always irrelevant, . . . . . until the next election.

 

Ah. No doubt you can point to the last time California went red in a presidential election. Or, perhaps, point to some indicators that it might do so in the foreseeable future?

 

About as well as you could point out the last time that idaho or north dakota or south dakota or (well i could go on but you see my point) voted for a democrat.
No matter how much we think we know what is going to happen in the future, we are all just making guesses(or until you get gerrymandered districts that guarantee you victory.).

We have that in nc with the 12th district, it was designed to elect a black democrat & noone else. As originally drawn it was 65% black, considering that blacks only comprise ~25% of NC population it was very evident what this district was to accomplish. Which is why it has been challenged & redrawn at least 3 times now.
It is down to "only" 45% black now but almost 3/4th of it is democrats.

Now personally, i wouldn't give a flip if cali had the big earthquake & slid off into the ocean. I've been there twice & will never go back, it was almost as bad as NY city.

 

Why do you hate America?

 

Martaug actually makes a good point, though. While the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior, even that is notoriously unpredictable in politics. Audiences are fickle and change their tunes quickly and suddenly, and perhaps no where moreso than the political arena. Mind you, I don't think California will be voting Rep in the next election, but a lot can happen in ~4 years.

 

That was funny .

Well, in all fairness, parts of california are pretty nice but IMHO, the good parts don't balance out the bad parts that suck royally.
Whereas, you can lose NY city & still have a pretty nice state.

 

Dude, I've been to Charlotte, (I have family there) and you could lose it and nobody would know the difference. I would call Charlotte a cow town, but I wouldn't want to insult any cows.

 

Oh definitely, Charlotte is just like atlanta, trying to be a little NY.

Yeah don't pick on the cows!
Thats like the "swine" flu, have you heard of any sick pigs lately?

 

From the Onion, and I loved it.

 

I guess I didn't get the joke. Is there any particular reason why Obama would be linked to killing people? The closest I can think of is a racial connection (African-Americans => violence) but that is quite iffy.

 

The Shaman: The article was clearly tongue-in-cheek -- a blend of sarcasm and irony. IMO it's poking fun at the liberal press and their current level of love for Obama; not President Obama himself.

 

I can. The last time California went Republican was when Reagan won a landslide victory in 1984. California also voted for Richard Nixon. And this also leads into your second question: Both Reagan and Nixon were governors of California prior to becoming president. So I could say a possible indicator of whether or not California will vote Republican is whether or not the Republican candidate is from the state of California.

Overall, I'd say California is a poor example of a Democratic state, as it has a long history (and a sizeable current number) of Republican governors, Congressmen, and Senators. You'd have been better off going with somewhere like Maryland or Massachusetts.

 

I read it as just the opposite; it's poking fun at the conservative media that has blamed everything on Obama, espeically since lately the "liberal media" has been critical of Obama moving too much to the center. Come on, Barack, we can't wait to see Cheney as the last Gitmo "detainee."

 

...could be, but we appear to be thinking along the same lines here -- the media is the target, not Obama (which may not have been obvious to The Shaman).

 

I just have to weigh in and say that I really don't like the Onion or its pieces. They all seem to be quite lame.

That said, the piece looked like it was mocking the fact that the "liberally biased" media doesn't really talk about anything of substance but rather treats Obama with kid gloves, glossing over or ignoring anything negative, even something as drastic as a double murder.

There's been a lot of talk about how Obama should be prosecuting Bush and his cronies for war crimes. I would argue that while Obama wishes to distance himself from the previous administration, he doesn't want to be seen as a vicious partisian hack who is wasting time punishing his political enemies. He wants to dismantle what they have done and move ahead, striving at all times to forge friendships and bridge divides rather than exacerbate the line between the two parties. I think this is a good way to go, in that he can be seen to be focussing on the serious problems rather than just getting revenge (though I'd love to see Cheney in the defendent's seat.)

 

And that's what the liberal media has been pushing for.

But you must mean like this?

You see, before you comment on what the liberal media is saying, you actually had to have HEARD what it is saying. Examples: MoveOn, The Daily Koz, Huffington Post, Countdown, Rachel Maddow...You get the picture.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/08/criticism/

Want more?

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/obama_answers_l.html

The NY Times, not really THAT liberal, but conservatives like to think so, since it is such a well-established media outlet (it's much easier for conservatives to discredit with the old "Liberal" tag attached to it).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fir...-opposition-judicial-review-bagram-detainees/

This one ran in Newsweek - A pretty good source for liberals:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/191393

 

If you thought the onion piece was sarcastic and funny, check this one out.
what-if-president-obama-were-a-republican/

It's a little long so i will put it behind a spoiler tag.

Spoiler

Let’s start with MSNBC’s ‘Countdown’ with Keith Olbermann, on Republican President Obama’s electoral landslide victory in November, and his 96% sweeping of the black vote.

KO: “It would seem the sinister and morally bankrupt Republican ploy of taking the White House with a totally inexperienced and faux minority candidate has been the most resounding political success for the GOP since the Reichstag Fire. Could African-Americans not act more self-destructively than in their rush to the polls to elect this Republican wolf in Martin Luther King clothing?

“Do they want to go back to slavery? For this abomination and slap in the face of freedom-loving Americans everywhere, and which has condemned this nation to yet another four endless years of war and jingoistic right wing fascism, I hereby declare every African-American voter who pulled the lever for this Republican Omar Bashir as the Worst Person in the World.”

Next up? Susan Roesgen of CNN, wandering through the crowd at a Democratic Chicago Tea Party.

SR, pointing to a protester wearing an Obama as Hitler/Satan mask: “Over here, we have a President Obama look-alike.” SR turns to a man in top hat holding a child. “What is your issue with the President, sir?” MAN: “It’s bad enough President Bush put us on the verge of bankruptcy. It appears the ObamaHitler is intent on finishing the job.”

SR: “Do you really believe President Obama when he tells us the City of Chicago will be getting fifty billion in new aid?” A protester wearing a KILL OBAMA tee shirt interjects: “No way! This is all for his and Darth Biden’s warmongering lobbyist friends in Halliburton and Blackwater! We’ll never see a dime of that money! KILL OBAMA! KILL BIDEN!”

Death chants rise in unison from the crowd. SR turns to the camera, smiling. “There you have it.”

CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, on Iranian hostage Roxana Saberi.
WB: “It has now been nearly three months since Roxana Saberi was arrested in Iran, allegedly for buying a bottle of wine, and with no concrete action to free her by this administration. Even worse, since Ms. Saberi’s kangaroo court conviction on trumped-up charges of espionage, which is as common for reporters in Iran as citations for jaywalking are here, she has gone on a hunger strike, and her condition is worsening by the day.

“I cannot help but be reminded of murdered Iranian-Canadian journalist Ziba Kazemi, who was beaten, flogged, raped, her fingernails pulled and her skull fractured in Evin prison, ironically for the crime of taking pictures of protesters outside Evin. How many more journalists have to come out of Iran in body bags before this President will act?”

Markos Moulitsas of Daily KOS, on Air Force One’s low flyover of New York City with F-16 escort.

KOS: “The scariest thing for me out of this whole episode is how easily the ObamaHitler managed to arrange a Boeing 747 to fly low over New York City with nobody knowing, and I mean nobody! Is it really much of stretch to believe now that the BusHitler couldn’t have arranged the same thing on 9/11 with remotely-controlled commercial airliners?

“I can’t help but wonder. Was this a test run? And why this time? To accelerate the rush to war with Iran? The only questions that remain for me are these: When? And which American city does the ObamaHitler and his Halliburton buddies plan to turn into a bombed-out crater next, in order to get another round of war profiteering off to a Grand Old Start? Call me a tinfoil hat paranoid NOW! I dare you! I double-dare you!

“The ObamaHitler. Brand new color. Same old warmongering right wing fascism. Screw ‘em!”
Al Franken, America’s most popular radio talk show host, on President Obama’s political targeting of him from the White House itself.

AF: “It would seem President Obama and his fawning Reichminister, Rahm Emmanuel, don’t like my rousing nationwide success in calling them out for who they really are. This attempt to target me personally, a private citizen, from the White House, with all its authority and power, puts on display for all to see that the BusHitler’s self-groomed replacement’s ambitions exceeds even that of Darth Rove and his fascist leash-holder.

“Not only did that Hitler-like persecution of me personally not work, it has backfired badly. My nationwide listener numbers on Air America are skyrocketing. I suppose it’s time now to implement the so-called Fairness Doctrine, which President Obama’s Reichstag-like stooges in Congress are pushing at this very moment.

“I find it particularly disturbing that Republican House Speaker John Boner, spearheading this shredding of the Constitution, finds no fault with FIX News, Goon Beck, Shill O’Reilly or Bum Rush Limbaugh, all of whom ragged us as ballsuckers during our Tea Parties and implied we would become violent, but finds plenty wrong with NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and especially my Air America. Talk about Brownshirts calling the kettle black!

“See you in the Gulag, Keith! The Countdown is on!”

Michael Moore, on the controversial DHS Left Wing Extremism Report and DHS Fusion Centers.

MM: “After reading this incredibly vague and exceptionally broad DHS report on Left Wing Extremism, can anyone really say this isn’t an attempt by the Obama Administration and the Republicans to silence dissent in this country once and for all? Individuals who protest the war, support abortion, favor tougher gun laws, the rights of undocumented immigrants, even those who oppose the federal government itself, are called out as potential terrorists!

“My next anti-war film could land me in jail! I’m sorry, who are the extremists here again?

“Even the DHS Civil Liberties Division objected to the broad language of the report, which Obama’s Himmler-like DHS Secretary Janet Nazipolitano seemed to be in a hurry to rush out the door, and just in time for our nationwide protests. Coincidence? I think not. It is quite clear to me what this report says: “You are either with us, or you’re a terrorist.”

“No surprise there. And how ironic, considering the right wing extremists in the Hitlerite Obama regime are the real terrorists. Today’s Grand Old Party is not the party of Lincoln. It is the party of Hitler and Mussolini. Given the present occupier of the Oval Office, perhaps Idi Amin would be a better analogy.”

“By the way, you may want to look into DHS Oberfuhrer Nazipolitano’s so-called fusion centers. There are seventy of them around the country now. One fusion center in Virginia declared all of the state’s universities ‘nodes for radicalization.’ Another in Texas warned about the terrorist threat from the ‘International Far Left.’ And Nazipolitano calls them ‘the wave of the future.’ This nationwide politically-motivated DHS network is called ‘The National Fusion Center Coordination Group.’

“Anyone else thinking Einsatzgruppen besides me? That’s what Hitler called his Special Action Groups. Who’s going to head those up? Obama’s radical right wing extremist preacher Jeremiah Wright? Or his Timothy McVeigh-like pal Bill Ayers, who knows a few things about throwing bombs and killing innocents? You DO see where all this is going, don’t you, people? Should be as plain as the Swastika flag flying over the ObamaHitler White House!”
The Guardian/UK’s Charlie Brooker, just prior to President Obama’s GOP landslide.

“On November 4, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Obama loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. James Earl Ray - where are you now that we need you?”

Protest sign: “Obama. The only dope worth shooting.”

Air America’s Randy Rhodes on the air, likening President Obama to Freddie Corleone.

“Do they let black people into the Mafia? No? Well, I think they ought to make an exception for President Obama. At least long enough to take him out on a boat like Freddie Corleone and phuw!” (GUNSHOT)

Democratic Underground, on the current Swine Flu pandemic.

“Like Bush intentionally withholding aid from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina in order to foment misery and violence, the ObamaHitler seems content to sit back and let this flu pandemic rage unabated. DHS Secretary Nazipolitano, who is such an idiot she doesn’t even know border law, has yet to close that same border in order to stem the flow of possibly infected Mexican nationals, even though clusters have now appeared as far north of the border as Queens, NY.

“Is this criminal negligence and malfeasance also intentional? Like Obama’s Republican lackeys in Congress rejecting nine hundred million in new flu pandemic funding? Who stands to suffer the most? I have no doubt the rich, and all of the ObamaHitler’s good buddies in Washington, will get the best treatment they possibly can. Just as they did lining up for Cipro during the BusHitler’s black bag job anthrax attack on the mail system, which Der Fuhrer staged in order to invade Iraq.

“But what of inner city minorities, who stand to suffer and die the most should this pandemic explode beyond control? Makes me wonder if they knew ahead of their flu pandemic funding vote that this would happen. Or worse, even started the epidemic themselves by injecting illegal aliens being deported to Mexico. Why else would Army samples go missing?
“If true, not only does this make our new Republican ‘multicultural’ Fuhrer in Washington a mass murderer, it makes him the greatest race traitor of all time. He would be guilty of nothing less than genocide. Just like his mentor, idol and BFF Omar Bashir in Sudan. Welcome to the American Darfur, courtesy of the ObamaHitler. Feeling better now?”

The moral of the story? Despite how rough of a ride it has been at times for President Obama, Democrat, he can thank God and his lucky stars he is not a Republican.

 

A real conservative, one who knows what he is talking about, speaks out -- and on the liberal media (about 3 minutes in).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/30589411#30589411

Maybe the "liberal media" is the last refuge for Conservatives - with a capital "C," instead of what passes for conservatives these days.

 

You see, I don't think that Conservatives need a "last refuge" - Republicans do. That's the open secret of the Republican party: The terms "Republican" and "Conservative" are no longer similar, much less synonymous as they used to be. And I believe that's true regardless of whether you are using the capital or lowercase version of "conservative". There isn't much of what are considered traditional conservative points in the current Republican party. That's why someone like Ron Paul - who I do consider to be a true conservative - seems so out of place within his own party. He's channeling the voice of the Republican party from 20 or 30 years ago. Where have those Republicans gone?

Or perhaps the better question is: Will those Republicans come back? I should point out that I'm not exactly rooting for that to happen, because I think the longer the current Republican party stays disorganized the better off Obama is going to be in getting done what he wants to get done, but an eventual rebranding of the Republican party is inevitible. Sometimes that takes a while, because of internal party conflict and lack of internal leadership (how long is Steele going to keep his job?). The Democrats took 12 years to get back on track after Carter.

If the Republicans want to start on the path of recovery, they would do well to become more conservative - become the party of business, of less government involvement, of the economy, and of upholding the constitution. They need to leave behind the party of opposing gay marriage, opposing stem cell research, opposing evolution, opposing global warming, opposing personal liberties and wars of choice. Heck, if they can do that, I may be able to vote for a Republican again...