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Some clarification please

Discussion in 'Dungeons & Dragons + Other RPGs' started by Eyebreaker7, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. Eyebreaker7

    Eyebreaker7 Someone clean my litter box ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    If you look in the 3.5 Monster Manual it says nothing about an Ogre Mage being able to change into other humanoids except for it's polymorph ability once per day. But on the internet, if you look up the d20SRD in between flight & regeneration it says:

    "
    Change Shape (Su)
    An ogre mage can assume the form of any Small, Medium, or Large humanoid or giant."

    Does the d20SRD have wrong info? Or is it like an updated 3.5 entry?

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ogreMage.htm



    In the character creation info it doesn't say anything about it either?
     
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    It's from the 3.5 Monster Manual Errata which you can find here : http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/errata

    Details are on page 4 of the document, basically the polymorph ability was swapped out for the Change Shape monster ability.
     
  3. Eyebreaker7

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    Wow! That's a lot of info I never knew about. Thank you very much!
     
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    Eyebreaker7 Someone clean my litter box ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    When you change shape do you also change in weight? I tried a google but came up empty.

    Change Shape
    A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume the appearance of a specific creature or type of creature (usually a humanoid), but retains most of its own physical qualities. A true seeing spell or ability reveals the creature’s natural form. A creature using change shape reverts to its natural form when killed, but separated body parts retain their shape. A creature cannot use change shape to take the form of a creature with a template. Changing shape results in the following changes to the creature:

    • The creature retains the type and subtype of its original form. It gains the size of its new form.
    • The creature loses the natural weapons and movement modes of its original form, as well as any extraordinary special attacks of its original form not derived from class levels (such as the barbarian’s rage class feature).
    • The creature gains the natural weapons, movement modes, and extraordinary special attacks of its new form.
    • The creature retains all other special attacks and qualities of its original form, except for breath weapons and gaze attacks.
    • The creature retains the ability scores of its original form.
    • Except as described elsewhere, the creature retains all other game statistics of its original form, including (but not necessarily limited to) HD, hit points, skill ranks, feats, base attack bonus, and base save bonuses.
    • The creature retains any spellcasting ability it had in its original form, although it must be able to speak intelligibly to cast spells with verbal components and it must have humanlike hands to cast spells with somatic components.
    • The creature is effectively camouflaged as a creature of its new form, and gains a +10 bonus on Disguise checks if it uses this ability to create a disguise.
    • Any gear worn or carried by the creature that can’t be worn or carried in its new form instead falls to the ground in its space. If the creature changes size, any gear it wears or carries that can be worn or carried in its new form changes size to match the new size. (Nonhumanoid-shaped creatures can’t wear armor designed for humanoid-shaped creatures, and viceversa.) Gear returns to normal size if dropped.
     
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    Seeing as most other polymorph effect change the weight of the creature with its size, I think it's safe to assume change shape does as well.
     
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    Dang. I was gonna turn into a 600 pound dwarf and head to the bar and say "Who's up for some dwarf tossin?" lol.
    Thanks Keneth
     
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