So who didn't take Imoen?

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just wanted to point out that Imoen does have Magic Missle in her spell book at the begining. you must be thinking of Nalia because she doesn't. cant imagine the designers would have Imoen cast a spell she doesn't know.

 

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< whistling cuts off as struck with silence >

< surprised look fades as polymorphed into squirrel >

< despicable tyrant decimated by barage of magic missiles >

< poetic justice prevails >

 

Thankfully Sorcerer is tired of reading this threat and won't notice that no one is talking about Imoen anymore

Syl...

 

Imoen?? Imoen??
Oh, yeah...that scrawny little wench who's always tagging along causing trouble..

<Rats! Never saw a topic stretch to 3 pages before...maybe next time..>

 

Wanna restart the topic? You can flame me for this one...

You're all talking about Role Playing your character right? right.

Then you say, Grub DID grow up in Candlekeep no matter what he says.... WRONG... What Syl is doing IS Role-Playing. What the rest of you are doing is called "following the storyline" I think it makes him a great role-player in that he took a new character and made it a *gasp* NEW character. He's role-playing that he never came from Candlekeep and that he just happens to be another unfortunate who also happens to be a child of Bhaal. Imoen and the rest keep confusing him with someone they seem to remember.... poor Grub has no idea what they're talking about

Keldor Mithrilhammer

 

Wingfoot - Yes I know Imoen has Magic Missile in her spellbook, but when I finally got out of Irenicus' Dungeon, she did not have it memorized or had a scroll on her yet she still casted it.

A slight flaw in my books, but nothing to really worry about since I was only asking who took Imoen when they rescued her.

As for Mithrillhammer, he got it right on the nail!

Syl...

 

I thought I made it pretty obvious when I said "Grub never met Imoen in Candlekeep, my Paladin did". "Grub has no fond memories of Imoen in the Hills of Zarchancheroustiv-tac-tac-rodmenkur-tao-vu where he was born and lived with Orcs. Grub has no sense of family when he looks at Imoen. She was never there."

If I have to spell out R-O-L-E-P-L-A-Y-I-N-G to everyone for my reasons of not taking Imoen, along with the others I mentioned as well, then my good cyber chaps, this thread is going to hit 100 posts since it's obvious no one can see my point of view.

This is an RPG right? So sorry for treating it as such. I'll go right back and re-load my saved game and take Imoen based on all the posts here saying I have to "because she's family!" To me, in an RPG sense, she isn't because my character Grub never lived in Candlekeep. Lance did, my Paladin from BG1 who is not with us today to enjoy BG2 I'm afraid.

Oh and this was the 69th post, made by me. Lick it and weep

Syl...


[This message has been edited by Sylvus Moonbow (edited December 08, 2000).]

 

Thank you Blackthorne, glad to be part of the minority

And Syl, I'm sorry to hear about Lance, I'm sure he was a wonderful Paladin. Let's take a moment of silence shall we...........

 

Draco Vlasavius said:

>Wow, I now have heard all that I can about those who have 'no honor or loyalty' towards Imoen. Syl, I can't say enough about it except that "it is a game". However our approach to games in small ways reflect our personalities and what we identify with.
Imoen is a solid NPC in this game and role-playing is always an issue in AD&D based games. If your EVIL Character gives Imoen the boot - I don't know how anyone can have a problem with that. Including me. If your GOOD Character gives Imoen the boot... problem. The lame (yep) comparison of Imoen with Sarevok is inexcusable. In BG1 Sarevok in cold-blood killed your known father at the time (Gorion) and later framed you for mass murder and oh yeah, had a contract out for your 'head on a stick' from the start of the game. For Blackthorne even to bring that up is... well... well I cant find words right now to discuss *it*!! I mentioned Star Wars before but again, Luke never knew Leia was his sister for *quite* some time... but he still was honor bound to do was what right from day one.

>I only wish the designers would've eliminated the option "Go wait in the CC and I'll come get you if I need you"... nonsense. Then we'd see the 'measure' and the 'caliber' behind the board names here at >Sorcerer's Place.

>Then again, it's just a game and it's yours to play as you see fit. "So go do, that voodoo, that you do, sooooo well"

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Saverok never killed Grubs father nor did I use that as an example. I think it was another fine cyber chap on this fine cyber message board.

Saverok killed Lance's father and it was Lance who helped Imoen as she helped Lance in BG1.

Grub on the other hand just happens to be another child of Bhaal and in no way did he help or get help from Imoen in BG1 because he wasn't there. He was in the Hills of Zarchancheroustiv-tac-tac-rodmenkur-tao-vu where he was born and lived with Orcs.

If Imoen was family and was there in those Hills with Grub and they grew up together, fine I'm sure Imoen would have made an excellent person to have in the party. Since that is not the case in an RPG sense, then there is no harm done in telling her to leave.

I repaid her debt and honored it. She saved Grub from Irenicus' Dungeon and I saved her from Spellhold. We are even and that is that. Grub owes her nothing and she may do as she wishes.

Others think different, but that's fine too if they want to be lead around by the story. I for one, will not.

Syl...


[This message has been edited by Sylvus Moonbow (edited December 08, 2000).]

 

Helms see all..Know that and be judged. We all know what that Sylvus is an evil half orc who thinks he has deeds like Drizzt's.

If Drizzt's was in his shoes, he would never do what Grub did.

 

From the sheer roleplaying point of view...I'm fine with it. I imported my paladin from BG1, so Imoen is dear to me...When I get her out of spellhold, she will be in the party. End o' story.

Syl's Orc doesn't know her from Adam, other than the fact she helped him out in Irenicus' dungeon - I agree with him. The debt is paid...She can kick back and have a few cold ones in the Coronet.

As far as the Magic Missle issue...Chalk it up to Wild Magic...That originated in the Realms right? How about that?

 

i uhh didnt take Imoen last time... I just wanted to be post 75... no real other reason for posting..

 

Ahhh, now I geddit (light goes on above head, but dimly) Grub was in Baldur's Gate visiting his auntie Slug when Irenicus's goons mistook him for Lance and kidnapped him, along with Minsc & Imoen etc. Fine.
Bugger, that means I'll have to drop out of the thread and we're still 25 off the century.

 

<Oboy, Fresh Meat!>

I certainly agree with total role-playing vs the story line. But (correct me if I'm wrong--I know you will!) but isn't Bioware acting sort of as a DM for this 'adventure'? And as DM they have repeatedly spelled out that the main character (you, whether you started with BG1, or started new with BG2) did, in fact grow up in CandleKeep along with Imoen. In a typical D&D setting, how much can you deviate from the DM's parameters? (I really don't know--I missed most of the early PnP D&D stuff as it was after my time <g> )

Separate observation: As a charter member of "Adventurers R Us", if we (my group) took on the assignment of rescuing anyone (aside from the personal vengeance/family issues) it just does not seem that that task is complete with unlocking the cage. The rescue is not complete until we get the subject back to safety. My opinion/philosophy, of course.

 

Ughhhh

Bhaal did it with an orc.

BTW. i am going to be pissed if Magic Missiles isnt an innate ability to Imoen when she comes back.

And Syl is right,

Phyco Bob (Fighter) grew up with Imoen in candlekeep or whatever and just wondered off after BG

Phyco Bob (Monk) got kidnapped by Jon Irenicus, Imoen just came along and saved him, its a complete coincidence that there both Bhaals kids (he must get around a bit, my bio says that Phyco Bob is from Kara-Tur)