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RtO - Delays

Discussion in 'Dragon Age: Origins' started by Munchkin Blender, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Death Rabbit

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    At this point, I think I'm going to wait 6 months or so before playing the game again, and I'm sure that by that time they'll be offering a "Platinum Pack" or something, selling all the additions together for the price of one of them now. As it stands, the dollar value for the amount of content provided is just not worth it. I mean they're charging $40 for Awakenings. $40! That's almost as much as a stand-alone game. Given how short the DLCs are so far, that takes some balls, Bioware.
     
  2. Caradhras

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    What I'm saying is don't get your knickers in a twist. I've been pissed off because I did wait for this DLC for the PC and I was extremely disappointed by its content. If you expect too much from it you're going to be really disappointed and it's definitely not worth getting riled up.
     
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    Awakening is a full blown 30+ hours of gaming. It is worth the extra money. As for the other DLCs, yeah they are a bit pricy for what you don't get. But so many for and against arguements have been made about the price of DLCs so I'm not going to rehash it.

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    I'm not riled up about the DLCs. I'm excited they finally decided to patch the game. My first rogue was a Dex/Stre build that didn't live up to his potential because daggers don't do extra damage with a high dex score.
     
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    Probably my favorite aspect of RtO is some of the equipment you find in Ostagar. In particular, Cailan's armor is great, and I loved having Alistair don it. Great stats, awesome look, and a chance for Alistair to wear his brother's armor. And even though the expansion was a essentially just another darkspawn fest, I enjoyed it. I think it should have been priced at $2.99 USD, but meh.
     
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    Wait - what? Are you serious? Although I got DAO as a gift I know how much my friend paid for it: $30. And a week later we were visiting a game shop and the price had dropped even further, around 25 or so. That was just a month after the game had been released. Considering there's no way Awakening will have anything close to the amount of content in the main game (I'm guessing between a third and half) $40 sounds like a lot. I'm most certainly not getting the expansion until the price drops by half.
     
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    Awakening pre-orders are 20 € here (about $27). I think that it is more than a fair price for a physical copy.
     
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    Unfortunately, yes. The pre-purchase price on Steam right now is $39.99. For an expansion pack - a piece of software that is utterly useless without the original game - that is unacceptable to me. I won't buy awakenings until the price is at least $30, 30+ hours of added gameplay or not.
     
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    See 20 euros for a pre-order physical copy makes sense (I would translate it to $25 in America - fair price and close enough to the conversion). $40 for a Steam one does not. I always expect a digital copy to be cheaper - after all they're not paying for the box, physical media and printing the manual. Yes, they're paying for the bandwidth, but when you're Valve this should be costing far less per copy than the physical box, and it most certainly doesn't cost $15 more.
     
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    The box/download prices are artificially being kept close together. This is intentional because physical box distributors have threatened game developers that started providing game downloads that they would discontinue selling their games in stores due to unfair competition coming from cheaper digital game downloads. And so it came to be that downloads cost the same or very close to the price of a regular box in the stores. In the end, it's a good deal for the physical distributors and game developers. And as long as people still rather pay full price for digital downloads instead of buying a boxed copy, it's obviously a good (or at least acceptable) deal for them as well. Either that, or gamers don't think before buying...
     
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    I am inclined to believe the latter :lol:

    Very good points. I had hoped that the competition from digital downloads would mean more reasonable box prices too (and in fact I had assumed this is why console games are always at least $10 more expensive) but I guess the current arrangement works far better for everyone concerned... except the consumer, but no one really asks for our opinion. And I guess we do vote with our money...
     
  11. Taluntain

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    Yup. Why help customers intent on not helping themselves in any way?

    Also, in all honesty, game prices have remained more or less the same for 15+ years. This realistically means that games are cheaper every year. Inflation and the significantly raised cost of production are not factored into the price of the majority of the game titles. Only the larger numbers of people playing games (and consequently buying them) are offsetting these losses.
     
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    Yup. Not to mention with the new games when added content is sold for the first few months it cost almost as much as the original game but it took 1/2 the time to develop.

    Yeppie. Tomorrow I can purchase DA:O RtO tomorrow. I've only waited since November 17th for this DLC to be released. Whatever happened to coming this Holiday season 2009?
     
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    In all honesty they have gone down, and by a lot. I remember paying $100 for Under a Killing Moon back in 1994/1995 (not sure about the year, but the game had just been released). Not all games were that expensive, but $100 wasn't unusual for the big-budget big-name titles (Wing Commander III and Phantasmagoria, among others, were selling for the same price). I guess I complain about game prices because I'm more demanding (read: picky) and money-aware now.
     
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    Do you still play on the console Munchkin? Is it really that different from the PC? Personally I can't imagine not being able to use a mouse to direct my other characters.
     
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    I use a gamepad with the PC and it works just fine. Playing from an over the shoulder view with a mouse is a pain IMO.
     
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    It is actually quite easy by using R1 or R2 buttons on the PS3 control. With the rumble feature it adds to the game.
     
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    Purchased the game first thing this morning. Tonight I will be downloading it or maybe tomorrow morning.

    Calin's armor is a fantastic set if you get it at the highest possible level. Calin's sword should be a Great Sword and not a long sword. The developers really screwed up there as Calin had a very massive great sword in the game and the DLC has his equipment as a long sword and a shield. What were they thinking?
     
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