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Recommendation for an NPC Mod

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Aldeth the Foppish Idiot, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    After I finish up my current game, I want to make an evil party. However, since I'm unlikely to make another thief (as my current character is a F/T multi-class), I'm left with Jan as my only viable option once I hit BG2. Jan is not evil, but at least as Chaotic Neutral he'll fit in OK with an evil party. The other members will the standard evil characters of Viconia, Korgan, and Edwin. I will take Sarevok in ToB, and just go with 5 characters throughout SoA.

    So I would obviously like to have an actual evil character as the other character. Other than creating two evil characters in BG1 and importing both of them into BG2 (suboptimal in my opinion), I'm going to either take Jan, or use an NPC mod.

    That said, there are obviously some pretty specific parameters I'm shooting for, which is why I'm asking for recommendations. The character needs to be evil, and also be a thief (a multi-class would be perfectly acceptable - he/she would not necessarily need to be a pure thief).
     
  2. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    My recollection is that Valen would be right up your alley. Vampire fighter/thief.

    I think, however, that she gets mighty overpowered.

    Look into it and decide.
     
  3. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    Um... What would I do when I needed to go outside in the daytime?
     
  4. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    She's a really TOUGH vampire.
     
  5. Blades of Vanatar

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    Thief Options for an Evil Party -

    Valen, Miriam - Both are Vampire Thieves. I have played Miriam, liked the Mod.
    Alassa, Hessa, Fade - Single classed Thieves.
    Silverstar - Assassin - Found in Chateau Irenicus - Crazy *****!
    Stivan the Hunter- CN Halfling F/T - Bridge District
    Vanim - Assassin - Found in the Temple District - Reminded me of Artemis Entreri.
    Tiax - CE C/T - found in the Asylum

    Also recommend the following Evil Non-Thief NPCs -

    Callisto - Elf Berserker with a thirst for Bloody Revenge, 17 STR, 18 Dex, 16 Con.
    Rylorn - Blackguard of Cyric. Stats are ok, but has a pretty tough quest. I liked him alot.
    Deidre in the Adv Mart sells a scroll. Read the scroll, Converse and choose the path. it will take you to the Temple of Cyric he is located in.
    Kido - CE Jester
    Tsujatha - Necromancer found in the first room of the Planar Sphere.
    Ninde - Necromancer found in Bohdi's Lair.
    Worgas - CN elf Wild Mage - Found in Chauteau Irenicus
    Angelo Dosan - Human DC F/M - Found in the Graveyard
     
  6. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    OK, I checked out Valen, and sorry, that's just too overpowered. I suspect I'll feel the same way about Miriam.

    I would take Tiax in a heartbeat - if only I could get him before the Asylum.

    I also like at first blush Stivan the Hunter. Unfortunately, he's chaotic neutral, and so there's no upside there from Jan.

    So that leaves Alassa, Hessa, Fade, Silverstar and Vanim. Which one of that group would you recommend? Although I have to say, if those first three are kit-less, they are definitely going to have to bring something interesting to the table in terms of quests and dialog.
     
  7. Blades of Vanatar

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    Fade was fun.... I really liked the dialogue. Not a power-house in combat though. Vanim and Silverstar are Assasins, so both can be nasty in the right circumstance. Silverstar has better dialogue though. I would recommend either one. Silverstar you can get fromt eh get go, she is in the room behind Jaheira and Minsc, just open the door and talk with her, she is yours. I use Dungeon Begone, but it allows you to pick up the NPCs in the Dungeon(including Yoshimo), so Silverstar can still be added with no woirries if you use that mod. Stivan is a F/T, so he brings better combat abilities/options to the plate. Hessa and Alassa are just hot babes. I believe Denise Richards is used as the portraits for one of them, I tried both and liked neither. Miriam is no at powerful as Valen. I actually liked her in my party and she was the only thief-type.

    If you go with PC, Korgan, Vicky, Edwin and Theif, that allows another spot for you in SoA. I would highly recommend Callisto, Rylorn, Kido or Tsujatha as your 6th. Though Callisto comes in at level 9 with a pretty-overpowered Longsword and her own set of Armor, Which I beleive is AC 1. Worgas is also a fun option. As a Wild Mage he is awesome, though his stats are weak. 7 Con! You get him right away as well.

    Another option for the 6th spot could be Haldimar, a TN Elf Fighter. STR 18(92), 17 Dex, 16 Con, dual- wielding Bastard Swords. Not great for content, but great as a kick-ass fighter in your front line. By choosing another warrior NPC now, who will be replaced by Sarevok in ToB, it gives you the option of trying either a newer class(Monk/Barb/Sorc), or to go with a spellcaster or Multi-class Caster as well. DC Cleric(9 or 14))/Mage(X) is a nice way to go with the Evil Party...
     
  8. Shaitan

    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

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    Perhaps this is for you (Tiax rules all and so on): BG1 NPC in SoA/ToB at SHS

    Merry Christmass
     
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    Shaitan, that is a ...... VERY nice mod.

    A quick question though, There are some other mods out there that already have these characters in them, will they conflict? I have Xan, Branwyn and Tiax already installed as Npc Mods for instance.
     
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    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

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    I assume it's modular:
    (from the initial post over at SHS) I hope that will answer your question.

    Cheers
     
  11. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    That is nice - and it effectively ends any worries about picking up enough evil party members. Welcome back Montoron! (Actually, he might NOT be in there, unless they do in fact let you rescue him from the Harpers.) If I'm taking Edwin, I don't really need a backup mage, and if I can take Monty, I don't need Jan at all. Maybe Kagain. Shar-Teel is in my current party in BG1, and I just can't resist putting the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity on her.
     
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    If you put the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity on Edwin does he become "Edwin" during his quest and then get changed back to "Edwina" at the end of the quest?
     
  13. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    I don't know - AFAIK, that girdle is only in BG1?
     
  14. Blades of Vanatar

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    Just to be sure, I uninstalled all of the mods for NPCs that will be included. So far, it's very entertaining. Kaigan has a very wise mouth. Talks a lot of ****. I love him! He has a store that you can buy items from as well, tons of new items for sale.
    Beware, some cursed items are in there, though he does warn of it beofre opening his inventory to you.
    Current party is....

    PC- LE Male Human Fig/Mage(7/10) - *** in Staves and Slings.
    Tiax
    Kaigan
    Shar-Teel
    ..... will pickup Monty and Xzar to flesh out the party.

    The mod changes a few things in the game, added a whole new level to the Circus tent, sending you to an Ice realm(IWD anyone?) to fight many monsters while trying to acquire 3 keys
    Not sure what other content was added, but so far so good.

    Also checked out some of the good/neutral aligned NPCs as well. Yeslick is promising. So is Kivan. You have to wait until the Underdark for Xan though, that is disappointing.
     
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    There's a Xan for BG2 mod at Pocket Plane, making him spawn in the Government District in chapter 2. But then you'd have to be able to de-install or not install the other Xan, or you'll have two of him! His voice-acting might take some getting used to though. He sounds very upper-class and nowhere nearly as tired, which is a pity.
     
  16. Blades of Vanatar

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    Update....

    I will have to say that playing the BG1 NPCs in BG2 is great fun. Tiax is excellent. Lots of bantering. Kaigan is very funny as well. I have yet to pickup Monty and Xzar. I think I will pickup Korgan for a while and see if he banters with Kaigan.
     
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    I have picked up Monty and Xzar to go along with Tiax, Kaigan and Shar-Teel. I highly recommend this Mod for those of you who are fans of the Evil NPCs from BG1. Lots of good stuff inside this mod. Not just the addition of the NPCs, but the encounters and dialogue were well done.
     
  18. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    Has anyone else tried this? I do trust Blades recommendation, and I'll probably download it this weekend, but I'm specifically looking at grabbing Kivan and Coran, and I was wondering if anyone had tried it with either of them.

    I know Kivan has been made an archer, but have any of the other NPC received kits?

    What about the few BG1 characters that made a return on BG2? There's not two sets of them now, are there?
     
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    They did not duplicate any NPCs that were already included in Vanilla SoA. Only Khalid and Dynaheir were left out, as they are dead.... though there is a Khalid mod in the works, which looks like it will have Harper Warrior and Harper Druid kits included. I did not notice any other Kits added to the NPCs. All other NPCs from BG1 are included, but Faldorn is ToB only as she already plays a role in SoA.

    I am running two teams now. My evil party already listed and the below.

    PC - Humie DC Fig(9)/Thf(x)
    Ajantis
    Xan
    Yeslick
    Quayle
    Garrick
     
  20. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    What the...?

    How come I can't install this friggin mod? I downloaded, clicked on the exe file, and got the following error message:

    Unable to find DIALOG.TLK in: dialog.tlk

    Please run this program in your Infinity Engine game directory.

    FATAL ERROR: Failure("Unable to find dialog.tlk")

    Press ENTER to exit.

    WTF?
     
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