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Ranger Cleric

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate (Classic)' started by Shaitan, Feb 26, 2006.

  1. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    Nothing great - but given the dearth of even semi-useful off hand weapons, having a few extra points of AC is usually your better option. There are no shields that are greater than +2, even taking the expansion into account.
     
  2. Shaitan

    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

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    I had in mind, that my upcoming R/C would continue his fare into BG2. But I could use hammer/shield in BG1 and then in BG2 make him dualwielding.
    One of the nicer aspects with BG1 is the missing overpowered items. I'm looking foreward to start - perhaps to morrow?
     
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    That's exactly what I did with my R/C. I'm in BG2 now with all his stat additions from BG1 and he is totally kicking ass dual-wielding.
     
  4. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    I would recommend that. Remember - dual wielding wasn't part of the original Baldur's Gate, and so they didn't need as much in the way of weapons. It's not just clerics - there aren't that many +2 weapons in the game period. Of the one handed varieties that you could theoretically dual wield, you have an ax, longsword, short sword, numerous daggers, in addition to a +3 short sword and Drizzit's scimitars. That's it. (Also Spider's Bane and a +2 halberd, but you can't dual wield them even in TuTu.) If something like Spider's Bane existed as a one-handed weapon, it would be worthy of an off hand slot, as it "gives you something" beyond an extra attack.
     
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    Aldeth, there's the shield of AC+2, AC+4 against missiles, very useful IMO.
     
  6. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    It's a +1 shield that's +4 vs. missiles - as a reward to the quest of returning the child's body from Umberlee's temple. A +1 shield does give a bonus of +2 to AC, but it's still a +1 shield.
     
  7. Fly2tHeSkY

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    :lol: yeh I think people get confused with that. Because a normal shield will improve AC by 1 so therefore a +1 shield will improve AC by +2! By the way we're talking about the Shield of Fallin Stars yeh ... the one with black and yellow?
     
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    Quick question, I am fairly new to the Cleric/Ranger combo, and was curious if you dualclassed ranger into cleric, does he have ot be a certain level to get the druid spells ? or is it enough with level 2 ranger dual to cleric ?
     
  9. Fly2tHeSkY

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    Umm I'm pretty sure you have to wait a looong while before a ranger can cast spells, like around 7th or 8th I think. Can anyone confirm this for me?
     
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    A multi-classed R/C has access to druid spells right away, and a Ranger dualed to Cleric has access to druid spells right away, so I'd assume that a BG1 dual would work the same. But I've never tried...
     
  11. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

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    Bion is absolutely correct. However, from personal experience, it is extremely difficult to roll a character with the ability scores to dual class to a cleric from a ranger. It's a lot easier to make a multi-classed R/C, and IMO they're better than dual classed R/C anyway.
     
  12. Fly2tHeSkY

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    But when you get up to BGII don't you think it would be better to have had a dual class combination as to allow a kit once you reach BGII?
     
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    It largely depends whether you have SoA or ToB, the MC is better and easier because ranger kits are not such good options for a cleric (I assume you don't intend to dual the other way) archer won't be effective with a sling and stalker won't backstab with a mace... I wouldn't even consider beastmaster (unless you really need to spice up the difficulty of the game).
     
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    jusst for the record, im not aiming this for bg2, im using any combination of near infinity, gatekeeper and ease of use required to make things the way i want if it is for RPG reasons :p

    I wanted to make a sort of mix between cleric and druid, so i made a halfelf dualclass from level 2 ranger to cleric. And just wanted to know if i stil got the ranger/druid spells when the ranger class became active again (at cleric level 3)
     
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    Absolutely. It'll work fine.
     
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    Indeed it will work fine but I would suggest going to level 3 ranger just to get the extra weapon prof myself and don;t forget you can only use cleric weapons so choose acordingly.

    The very first character I finished the game with was a Ranger3/Cleric back before ToTSC was even released... ;)

    And as for rolling up a ranger to dual to cleric its still easier than rolling a fighter to dual to druid where you must have 17 in both wis and cha... ;)
     
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    Maybe. Ashideena (Bassilus's hammer) and a sling equipped with shield should do you well, so why would you bother with another proficiency point you'll probably not use? And a 4th level cleric has the same THAC0 as a 3rd level ranger, so that's no bonus.
    Only if you want to max everything, and even then you'd want a high CHA for interaction anyway. Let's take a little comparison, shall we?
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    Class  STR  DEX  CON  INT  WIS  CHA  Total
    R->C   15   15   14    3   17    3     67
    F->D   15    3    3    3   17   17     68 
    :jawdrop: :shake: Shucks, beaten by a point. Oh well. :rolling:
     
  18. Fly2tHeSkY

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    I know this whole thread was based around creating a Ranger/Cleric, but maybe, from what we've just been talking about, you'd consider taking another class. Perhaps a Fighter/Cleric would be easier to get what you want? Or did you just want the Ranger part for the abilities and the spells?
     
  19. Shaitan

    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

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    Nay, I still go for my R/C. I wanted to get some opinions - and got it. I think R/C is a nice build. I got all divine spells so I'm happy. Besides I haven't finished a game using a R/C :)
     
  20. Fly2tHeSkY

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    LOL then by all means go for it! You'll get a nice mix of spells and power for that multi class build so it should be fun! Even though you're unable to use bladed weapons it should be ok, have fun! :D
     
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