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Random Babbling Thread 120

Discussion in 'Whatnots' started by dmc, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    You know that everything that isn't taped off will be occupied by usually more than one idiot convinced that they are immune to covid-19. We've even had plenty of cases of such idiots here tearing the tape and not stopping until they were fined. The virus remains on plastic and metal for up to 3 days, which makes any kind of outdoor fitness and playground equipment the perfect vector to spread the infection. Even when nobody is there in person to pass on the virus and you think you're safe.
     
  2. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    I personally am partial to the breed of idiot that gets tested, turns up negative, and turns that into the idea that they cannot get it in the future.

    Darwin award contestants, the lot of them.
     
  3. Blackthorne TA

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    Though they're still working it out, the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is primarily through person-to-person contact, not through contaminated surfaces or food. It's a respiratory virus so that generally means you have to inhale it somehow to be infected.

    I heard one report from a food safety person who said a person with COVID-19 could sneeze into your salad before putting the lid on it and you'd be fine eating it. Not sure if I believe that since you could inhale while eating, but I think the point was eating the virus is not the same as inhaling it with respect to transmission; and I'm sure some bit of trying to soothe people.

    Young healthy people doing risky things not in accordance with self isolation to slow the spread of COVID-19 are just playing the odds, though it's still selfish.
     
  4. Sorvo

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    :beer:
     
  5. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    The virus can enter your body via your mouth, nose or eyes. Since we tend to touch/poke at all three all the time even subconsciously, there's a very high risk of transmission via contaminated hands. Hence the constant warnings to wash your hands thoroughly with soap that we're hearing here. The relevant health authorities here are advising the population to treat anything bought externally as potentially contaminated.

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    More info: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public, https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...facts-about-coronavirus-disease-covid-19.html

    This message brought to you by the PSA department of Sorcerer's Place. :D
     
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  6. Harbourboy

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    Hmm, we seem to be on a tougher lockdown than you guys. None of us are allowed to go to work unless we are "essential services" like supermarkets, hospitals, pharmacies, petrol stations. We can't go anywhere other than walking around the block, or driving to one of those essential locations. We can't spend time with anybody other than the people who live in our house.
     
  7. Blackthorne TA

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    Tal - Such information is for safety's sake I'm sure, which I'm not saying you should ignore, since as I said they are still working it out.

    CDC indicates: "It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads."
     
  8. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    Sure, that's true enough. But when lives are at stake, I personally wouldn't risk it.
     
  9. ConjurerDragon

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    That is more a theoretical way of infection and only if the virus remains there undisturbed - after a heavy rainfall or a day in the sun on a warmer day exposed to the weather even that theoretical danger is gone.

    The places are off-limits to avoid people gathering there, because the main ways of infetion involve personal contact like catching a few drops of what someone sneezes through the air
    https://www.swr.de/wissen/coronavirus-ansteckend-100.html
    https://www.stern.de/gesundheit/cor...nicht-mehr-nach-italien-fahren---9156938.html

    By the way - did the croatian earthquake north of Agram reach as far as Slovenia?
     
  10. henkie

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    I was a bit surprised about that earthquake in Croatia, didn't know there were faultlines there.
     
  11. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    The likelihood of any playground or outdoor fitness equipment remaining used by only a single person long enough for the virus to theoretically, under the right conditions, be rendered harmless, is in my opinion far lesser than the likelihood of someone else coming along and picking up the virus touching the same infected surfaces before that happens. Honestly, this kind of downplaying the potential danger seems very odd to me. Even if the chances of infection are only very low -- say 5% -- why would anyone sensible want to risk it? There are even previously healthy young people lying in our hospitals on respirators over this. Germany has a suspiciously low statistic of deaths due to covid-19, which is several times lower than the next "best" country in this regard. There are a number of reasons why this could be which are still under investigation, but by far the easiest explanation is that the danger is under-reported or cause of death attributed not to covid-19 but to previously existing conditions. Which I'm sure is more soothing for the general public in terms of thinking that they're not at risk unless they're among the elderly or have diabetes and/or high blood pressure, but I feel that that's a false sense of security.

    As for the earthquake, it shook me awake because my bed was vibrating so hard, so I definitely felt it. It was reportedly also felt in parts of Italy, Austria and even some parts of Germany, among others.
     
  12. Harbourboy

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    Day 5 of lockdown here. Now up to 589 cases and 1 death.
     
  13. henkie

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    Sometimes I wonder about the severity of Covid-19, though. If you look at the total numbers, it seems fairly insignificant. There's about 108 deaths per minute all over the world, compare that to the total number of deaths by Corona in the past ~4 months.

    Then again, maybe it would become pretty significant if we'd do nothing.
     
  14. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    Italy and Spain are literally on the verge of collapse over it and they've enacted some of the strictest measures possible -- but too late. The deaths in the US are going to be in the hundreds of thousands. If we did nothing, the death toll would certainly be at least several times as high. Also keep in mind that according to the latest reports, there is significant chance of incurring permanent or near-permanent lung/organ damage and associated diseases (ARDS has 30-40% mortality rate) for some of those who recover from covid-19.

    Relevant recent article: Video reveals lung damage in US coronavirus patient: 'People need to take this seriously'
     
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    It's basically a nasty flu that spreads much faster and can be particularly deadly for older people.
     
  16. Taluntain

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    Hi, I was watching real time stats for that damned pandemic and just saw 200+ deaths at USA. Just wanted to say I hope you are all well and wish you all health.
     
  18. Taluntain

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    Oh i know total is much more than that. Even here in Turkey a total of 277 people died. It was just +200 at USA at once. Probably daily total. I hope it wasn't hourly or something. It's too many people.
     
  20. T2Bruno

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    We have the strangest conversations at our house....

    Mrs Bruno: “Now there’s BLOOD on the shovel!”
    Me: “....”

    After all, how do do you respond to something like that?
     
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