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Political YouTube Clips Thread

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by The Great Snook, Mar 28, 2009.

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    Remove all ads!
    This is very well done (IMO). While not being too political it is very amusing.

     
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    The Great Snook, Oct 18, 2010
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    :lol: Tina is so funny. :)

    http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/11/04/tina-fey-breaks-out-sarah-palin-impression-on-letterman/
     
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    Hey The Great Snook. Is this really for a comedy? Looks personal. :D
     
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    If you go to the actual Youtube video and click on the details they list the production companies facebook page and it is listed as a comedy. I personally don't think it is an attack ad against him, but I could be wrong. I thought it was clever and very well done.
     
    The Great Snook, Nov 29, 2010
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    I definitely think it's for comedy's sake - I didn't see it as an attack ad. Political satire is nothing new.
     
    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot, Nov 30, 2010
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    I wonder if he actually thought of doing this???

     
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    With a week to go to Irish elections, one man explains why he's voting the ruling party back into power.

     
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    Oh the hypocrisy.

     
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    I never really understood the purpose of affirmative action - to me the entire concept is hypocritical. In an effort to not chose which people get accepted based on race and to judge by ability, you force people to chose people based on race and not ability. I never really understood the concept from the get go.

    It's like using a racist policy to combat racism. I think it's strange, and I think it can have unintended consequences. For example, if a college wants at least 10% of the admitted student to be black, and they hit that target every year, how do we know that they are deliberately accepting only 10% of black candidates, when 15% might be qualified.

    /me waits patiently while Snook has a heart attack while reading this/
     
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    I don't believe that is the effort behind affirmative action. Quite the opposite in fact. The effort behind affirmative action believes there is merit in a well diversified population in a particular group of people, and that if current selection criteria alone (which may or may not include "ability") are used to judge acceptance, population diveristy will suffer.

    If one assumes that "ability" is in fact the current selection criterion, affirmative action is (IMO) essentially a slap in the face to those groups it purports to help. Essentially it says that your race cannot compete on ability so race needs to be taken into consideration in order for diversity goals to be achieved.
     
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    Our society has been and is rife with unofficial affirmitive action. It is always fun if there are 10 bosses in a company, all men and when one retires and they hire a new and purposefully go for a woman that is called affirmitive action but that 90% of the bosses are men (or white or whatever) is not affirmitive action? They are all better suited than all women?

    Our society is rife with structural affirmitive action favouring the majority and the affirmitive action so many people find offensive is just a way to battle it, whether it is hte best way or notI cannot say but to be upset about as a member of the generally favoured majority feels a bit low.
     
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    Well, ability is the selection criterion for everyone else who doesn't fall into one of the minority groups, innit? So that's exactly my point... it does seem to do exactly what you say.
     
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    Did I misunderstand what I quoted? It seemed you were saying that the goal of affirmative action is to "judge by ability". The goal of affirmative action is not to judge by ability (solely) because its proponents believe diversity within the group is an important result of the selection criteria and that by using whatever the current selection criterion is, diversity within the group is suffering.
     
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    Maybe I should have been clearer. I'm saying that the goal of affirmative action is to NOT judge by ability - so basically the exact opposite of what you thought I was trying to say. I'm confused now - do we agree or not?
     
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    OK I think we DO agree then, but I don't understand why "to [you] the entire concept is hypocritical".
     
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    For the exact reasons you listed in the second paragraph in your reply. It's a slap in the face to minority groups.
     
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    Perish the thought, I consider you far to intelligent to be wrong all the time :D
     
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    That's funny. I was just thinking the same thing about you, Snook. :) Sorry I didn't check out your clip though. I have an aversion to propaganda [it's probably just a few paid actors anyway].
     
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    I dunno Chandos - it's actually something humorous to me. Guy on some campus (might be UC Riverside) asking students if they support affirmative action. When they say yes, he then goes into why the hoops team should have more whites and asians, in that the campus population is about 9% black but the team is over 90%.

    Then they flounder about trying to explain why it's different.

    The obvious implication is that you don't pick your hoops team based on race because you want to win, so you go with the best player. If that's the case, then what does that say about picking your students, faculty or, presumably, employees based on race?

    It's a simple argument, but the general idea is that if you take away the original reason for affirmative action (i.e., that historic prejudice and racial bias has placed certain groups at a substantial disadvantage and they need a step stool to catch up), then there's absolutely no reason to continue affirmative action because it just harms your product.

    As far as student body goes, there's a separate argument that claims that diversity is, in and of itself, a benefit, but I'm not so sure I buy into that at any level, much less the level that they want to give it in academic circles.
     
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    OK, so it's about sports. I don't know if sprots really is at the top of the list for important affirmative action objectives. What's next? Rock bands? So these "nice people" accost the student body on their way to classes? Did they speak with the people who actually CRAFT the policy? That would be far better, IMO.

    I would love to have one these fools approach me on campus, sticking a mic in my face. I'd have a few nice questions for these people as well. My section would be on the editing room floor, as I'm sure those with some good, sharp comments for them ended up as well. ;)
     
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