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Latest from Michael Moore

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by dmc, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. Earl Grey

    Earl Grey Mmm... hot tea! Veteran

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    Are those two separate reasons?
    The first reason makes sense, but IMHO the second doesn't. If a filmmaker does not make a profit from his film(s), he will have a very hard time making more films.
     
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    Ok, one last shot at this.

    I will not pay Moore to see a movie in which allegedly all he does is take information that we already know, and spins it with his humor, while depicting the suffering of the Iraqi people in the background. The fact that he will be making money on a film that apparently provides nothing new, and is using the misery of some of the Iraqi people as a backdrop for his admittedly political attack on the President is completely exploitive.

    As was stated above, the man has millions already. If he is such an altruist and wants us all to know the "truth", why does he attempt to take profit from depictions of those suffering?

    Before I am attacked on them, I will address the quotation remarks around the word truth above. Mr Moore does not engender himself as a purveyor of the truth with such statements as:
    You can't get on a plane that is going to land in Baghdad without showing your credentials prior to takeoff, and no one lands in Baghdad without acquiring authorization prior to taking off. So why should they check your credentials upon arrival?
    Moore knows this is a lie, so what is his motivation for telling it?
     
  3. Takara

    Takara My goodness! I see turnips everywhere

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    Darkwolf, when I fly out of the U.K I have to show my passport, credentials etc. When I get to my arrival destination, u.s, spain, whatever, I again have to show my passport. All people flying into the u.k have to do the same. This is called immigration control.

    The point I think Michael Moore seemed, to me at least, to be making was that anyone from the Continental U.S didnt need to pass through any form of immigration. Yet, anyone coming in from any other destination did.
     
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    And so that creates a logical jump to state that Iraq is now am American Territory?

    You comparison is analogous to comparing apples to oranges. We are not dealing with conventional travel here. You cannot go get your passport, slap down your AmEx card and buy a ticket for seat on a plane bound for Baghdad. You have to be cleared by the coalition to go there before you ever leave. When you travel from Europe to America, you do not announce to the US government what time, and flight you will be arriving on, and the security for getting on such a flight is much lower than for flights to Baghdad. So instead of requiring all that in advance they simply examine your docs when you arrive.

    There is no doubt that Iraq is an occupied territory, but it is not an American Territory.
     
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    In today's film industry, a few million is just a drop in the bucket. It would be interesting to see if an Ann Coulter film received similar criticism. I, for one, intend to see Moore's latest.
     
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    I think that this is a rather far stretch. From what everyone is saying this movie is closer to propaganda or even a campaign ad rather than a documentary or educational film.

    I personally think it will be hilarious if the movie is determined to be a campaign ad and the theatres/media are forced to give equal air time to Bush to refute the charges.
     
  7. dmc

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    In a complete non-surprise, Fahrenheit 911 won the Palme D'Or at Cannes.
     
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