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Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by WickedPrince, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Taluntain

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    Basically, shortly after the Syrian refugee crisis started, it's been mostly usurped by economic migrants from various African and greater Middle Eastern countries who saw joining the refugee migrations as an easy way to get into Germany, Sweden and other well-off countries with very generous welfare and social housing systems where they basically wouldn't really have to work if they didn't want to but would be able to eventually bring in their extended families and relatives as well to enjoy the benefits. The overwhelming majority of these economic migrants were (are) young, single men. The right of asylum has been broadly abused by this type of economic migrants as various migrant-friendly NGOs and their field operatives advised them how to attempt to take advantage of it despite not qualifying for it and so on.
     
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    Which is why most of those that applied for asylum (= 3 years to stay in Germany if accepted, then verify the status, else return to homeland) have not been granted that status, but "only" that for refugees of war ( = 2 years to stay in Germany, then verify status, else return). That most of the time "asylum" is mentioned on TV adds to the confusion, as most only get the lesser status to stay in Germany.
     
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    Hm, sounds like it's own sort of mess. Over here we have legal Hispanic immigrants = lots of them; and illegal Hispanic immigrants = even more than the legals. Police have to ask every Hispanic person they see for identification because there is no other way to tell the difference. The legals for the most part hate the illegals because: a) they cheated to get in while the legals went through the full regular immigration; and b) they give the legals a bad name in part simply because they are illegals but also for various legitimate other reasons. Now American Federal Law says that Illegal Immigrants are to be arrested and deported back to their home countries; but some decades ago it was decided by the Federal Government that we were going to just ignore the Federal Law from now on. They didn't revoke it, they just wanted it ignored. One of our states decided that they weren't going to do that anymore; they were going to follow the Federal Law as written. Even our then-president got ticked off. But they STILL didn't revoke the law; they just decided to punish Arizona for following the law. So now we have 49 states in open rebellion of a Federal Law and one state following it; and the one following it is being punished.
     
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    Immigration enforcement has become the modern version of the Fugitive Slave Act. There are parallels. Both deal with people who have fewer rights, both have States refusing to enforce the law.

    I'm NOT comparing illegal immigration to slavery, I'm just stating that there are parallels in how those laws are being enforced (or would that be enfarced?).

    Although I could probably make a case that the people that hire illegal immigrants today are the same kind of people who owned slaves a century and a half ago. At least the industrialists rather than the perverts which I'm not going to address.
     
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    Yeah that makes a lot of sense; a lot of them seem to be joining the migrant workers who travel around helping farmers with their harvests. They can get paid in cash and not have to worry about being asked for ID or having to pay taxes or anything.
     
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