How 'bout them NY METS???!?!?!?

Man, ESPN is fawning over Jeter like they're middle school girls. Honestly, you'd think Jeter was the only guy in the running for the AL MVP. Comeon ESPN, give some props to Thomas and Morneau, they're both more important to their far less talented teams.

 

If Morneau or Thomas win the MVP, I'd have no problem with that at all. However, I do not think that you can completely write off Jeter as a worthy canidate. The guy just missed out on the batting title, had a great fielding percentage, is the team captain, and perhaps most importantly, in a year when the Yankees have been beset by injuries (Matsui, Giambi, Cano, and Sheffield all missed large chunks of playing time, and A-Rod slumping) Jeter has been the one constant.

To me, being the MVP isn't all about the numbers, it's about the intangibles that he brings to the table as well. I also think that the MVP should come from a team that makes the playoffs. Most valuable player should not be read as "best player", and I think you couldn't be all that valuable if your team didn't have a successful year. That's why I say that Morneau and Thomas are deserving, but not Dye.

Lastly, I feel bad for the Tigers. They have to be so down on themselves now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go three and out to the Yankees. The Twins also set a record. They were in sole possession of first place on only one day this year - the last one.

 

I'm fairly convinced that the Mets have no real chance of winning the pennan or the series, not because Pedro is out, but simply the fact that the pitching isn't going to be strong enough, if our offence has a bad day. Mind you if Wright, Beltran and Delgado start really hitting again ... mmm

Mind you we should take the Dodgers

 

The thing I like the most about the series this year is the possibility of two very tantalizing matchups - I'd love to see another Mets-Yankees subway series, but I'd be more than happy with an old school Yankees-Dodgers series too.

 

It seems like the demise of the Mets was greatly exagerated. For at least one day anyway. Granted, they did get a bit lucky with the botched base running from the Dodgers, but in the playoffs, a win is a win is a win - it doesn't have to be pretty.

The team that is surprising me the most is the Twins. They might be done. While I think the strength of the A's pitching staff as a whole is better than the Twins, no one has a pitcher as good as Santana. I assumed Santana would pitch twice in the series, win both, and then the Twins would only have to win one of the other three games to advance. But being down two and going to Oakland, it just doesn't look good.

The other AL series is a formality. I think Detroit will be lucky if they win a game. It was a great cinderella story to make that run, but they very well might be three and done.

Finally, I'd expect the Padres to win the series. The Cardinals came into that series reelilng, barely holding on to win the division on the final weekend, after nearly squandering an 8.5 game lead with just 12 games to play - that's hard to do.

Overall, as much as it will disappoint all the Yankee-haters out there - it really looks like it's their year - again.

 

That has to be the craziest double-play I've ever seen and also one of the biggest HR hits I've ever seen, certainly while watching games at Shea. I've just been reading on ESPN about it and they really don't have a clue as to how it happened really, but a win is a win especially in October. Come on the Mets

 

Here's how it went down: I'm just going to use positions, because I'm not a Dodgers fan, and the only player's name I remember was Kent was on second. Anyway---

Runners on first and second, nobody out.

Batter hits a long fly ball into the outfield.

The runner on first sees the trajectory of the ball, correctly predicts that it won't be caught and starts running. Kent, however, does not start running. He goes half way between second and third and stops, waiting to see if the ball will be caught or not. Only after the ball drops does he start running towards third.

However, the runner on first has already rounded second and is heading for third as well. In fact, he's only about 15 feet behind Kent.

The third base coach sees this, and while he knows it's going to be a close play, he sees no alternative to waving Kent home. He can't stay on third with another base runner right behind him, and the other guy is already too close to third to go back to second. So he does the circle move with his arm to wave Kent home, and hopes that the throw is off to give Kent enough time to score.

And that's where the critical mistake happened. The second runner sees the third base coach's signal and PUTS HIS HEAD DOWN and runs as hard as he could. The third base coach did NOT want to wave the second runner home. As soon as Kent rounded third base, he gave the stop sign to the second runner, who, if he had been looking, would have seen the stop sign.

So the second baserunner plows right through the stop sign (the only reason Kent was sent home was because of the other runner), and seeing as how Kent was out, he obviously was thrown out too. Many people have questioned why Kent didn't attempt to knock the catcher over instead of trying to slide around the tag. If he had collided with the catcher, the second runner at the very least would have been safe. According to the post-game interview, Kent didn't even know that other guy was behind him - he had assumed he stopped at third base.

Now there's plenty of blame to go around here. The batter ended up with a double. When there's runners on first and second, and the batter hits a double, by all rights, the guy on first should have more than enough time to get to third, and the guy on second should score easily - standing up usually. In fact, if the runner on first is fast, it's not that unusual to see a guy score from first on a double. I can see why Kent was playing it conservatively with no one out, but Stevie Wonder could see that ball was going to drop.

I also blame the runner from first though. He should be alert enough to realize he wasn't being waved home. In reality what should have happended was runners on second and third, still no one out, and a run scored. Worst case scenario should have been second and third with one out, with Kent being thrown out at the plate. It's inexcusible to have two people thrown out at the plate on the exact same play.

 

Aldeth I didn't mean it literally I meant as in it shouldn't have happened, the main person to blame is the first base runner as he didn't look at the ball position or the third base coach

 

Woohoo we sweep the Dodgers and it's made all the sweeter by the Tigers, Let's go Mets

 

Wow, I don't check this forum enough!

GO METS! BTW, I have tickets to tomorrows game, but with the weather and the death of a NY player today, the game might be put off until Friday afternoon. If that's the case, I'll be desperately trying to take Friday off from work.

 

Good pitching in both series so far.

 

Great pitching by Glavine again, and Beltran shows how much he loves Cardinals pitching, as you say dmc now it's Carpenter.

 

How about them Tigers???
Wow, from being one of the worst teams in the league now suddenly they are in the WS!
Go Tigers!

I can't watch any games... they are showing games a month old...

 

Agree dmc but what an offensive display in game 4 and as for Carlos Delgado well

Bad news possibly about Trachsel though...

 

Now we've got a series! I love sports more when a series goes 6-7 games rather than a 4-game sweep.

 

Yes... how about those Mets.

With Carpenter on the mound tonight, the advantage seems to be in the Card's direction.