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Help Wanted -- Walkthrough Proofreaders

Discussion in 'Sorcerous Sundries' started by Taluntain, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    @Beren is our veteran walkthrough writer, with a number of popular and detailed walkthroughs and guides published (e.g. PoE, Wizardry 6-7-8, DA:O, etc.). Currently, he needs some help with proofreading a few walkthroughs that he has in progress. One that has been partially proofread halfway through is the draft walkthrough for Pillars of Eternity 2. He has also drafted another, more subjective guide for PoE2 that goes more in depth into strategies and character builds and that includes Youtube videos of gameplay.

    A large part of the work is proofreading, checking links, typos, spelling/grammar mistakes and so on. But Beren is also receptive to feedback as to the content of the walkthroughs themselves, and will often give credit when he includes points raised that he himself did not originally consider during his initial drafts.

    It is a significant commitment, as he has more projects either in progress or planned for the future. For example, he is currently working on a guide for Siege of Dragonspear. He also has plans for walkthroughs for the Pathfinder games, and perhaps Baldur's Gate 3 as well.

    But the commitment is one that can be handled with around 15 minutes or so a day. You would proofread and link check a couple of pages a day, and post your feedback to our Workshop forum thread. There will also be time gaps where Beren will take considerable time drafting the next walkthrough, which will give any proof readers significant breaks until the next draft is ready.

    Members that will help with finalizing the walkthroughs will receive credits and acknowledgement, and perhaps other benefits as well.

    To qualify as a proofreader, you should posses these qualities:
    • Good grasp of the English language, and the ability to write well.
    • An eye for proper capitalization, punctuation, spelling and grammar.
    • Attention to detail, patience and persistence.
    • Enough free time on your hands to be able to proofread on a regular basis.
    • Intimate knowledge of the games covered in the walkthroughs is not required, but would be a huge plus.
    If you're up for it, please send me a PM with a short description of your skills and why you'd like to help and we'll go from there. In case of multiple applicants, I'll try to select the most suitable candidate. If possible, we'll see about working with multiple proofreaders at once as well.
     
  2. Sorvo

    Sorvo Where's the nearest pub? Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Wookie might be interested in doing this. She has the qualifications except the last one. Only problem is she uses her phone so I guess it would have to go through me. :beer:
     
  3. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    If you can copy what she sends you and then paste in the Workshop threads, that might work. @Taluntain what do you think?
     
  4. Sorvo

    Sorvo Where's the nearest pub? Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Where is Workshop threads?
     
  5. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    You won't see them unless and until Tal gives access to the Workshop forum. It's a forum created solely for proofreading the walkthroughs I write.
     
  6. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    I don't think that doing this on a mobile and then Sorvo having to do all the back and forth would be sensible or practical, to be honest. The proofreader needs to be able to give and receive direct feedback, and all the text correction, manipulation, copy/pasting and walkthrough content viewing and proofreading would be extremely tedious and impractical to do on a mobile so I can't see anyone doing that on a regular basis that way.

    But if she actually managed to do all that on a mobile, I don't see why she couldn't just copy/paste it into the Workshop herself as well. But as I said, I don't think that this would be practical enough for her not to be overly tedious, so while I appreciate Wookie's offer to help, I believe that attempting to do this via a mobile wouldn't really work for her or for us. If this was only a few pages of text it'd be different, but here we do need a proofreader with a proper working environment so that doing this on a long(er)-term basis doesn't quickly become a chore for them.

    @dmc has been doing a great job with this for a number of years, but unfortunately due to personal circumstances he currently isn't able to continue helping out.
     
  7. Sorvo

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    I'd be willing to give up my PC for about a half hour a day so she could do it if that would help. :beer:
     
  8. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Thanks for taking one for the team if you're willing. Tal?
     
  9. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    That might work, until Sorvo changes his mind about sharing his PC. :shake: We can give it a shot and see how it goes.
     
  10. Sorvo

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    Well she does live with me and I let her use it whenever she needs to. :beer:
     
  11. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Ok, to make this work, do we give Workshop access to Sorvo's account or Wookie's?
     
  12. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    I assume Wookie's, so she can interact with her account directly. I'll set that up tomorrow.
     
  13. Sorvo

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    I'm sure it would be easier with me since she's going to be using my PC. I'll talk to her when she gets home.
     
  14. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    That's what I was wondering about, maybe Sorvo wants to stay logged into his account while she takes her turn on the PC? But it sounds like you trust her enough for that. ;) Either way's good for me.
     
  15. Sorvo

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    If she sleeps in my bed every night I better trust her! :beer:
     
  16. Wookie

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  17. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    Ok, so I should give Sorvo's account access? Or will Wookie log in with her account? Any browser can store multiple logins, so it's just a matter of logging out of one and logging in with another if she chose to use her own account. Neither her nor Sorvo would have to manually type in their logins, just make a couple of clicks to switch accounts.
     
  18. Sorvo

    Sorvo Where's the nearest pub? Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    I always use my account on my PC, I don't want to switch up anything. :beer:
     
  19. Beren

    Beren Lovesick and Lonely Wanderer Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Maybe give access to both accounts, for the sake of flexiblity?
     
  20. Sorvo

    Sorvo Where's the nearest pub? Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Sure, That makes sense. I'm not going to do anything with it. :beer:
     
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