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Yeah, I know there's probably no such word as pedanticist. It was a neologism. At no point in my post did I claim to speak or write perfect English (certainly not to degree level, Capstone; Im still in my gap year). I too objected largely to Shralp's style of criticism rather than the criticism itself (although in one of his many quotations he did criticise the lack of a capital letter); what he clearly considered to be wit came across, in my opinion, as unnecessarily haughty pretention in the face of many trivial errors (and, admittedly, a few severe ones which were genuinely sub-standard). Perhaps I was biased by my distaste for an entire post dedicated to what I consider to be a relatively petty matter, or by my empathy for those whose integrity of prose and astuteness of editing suffer with fatigue as the wee small hours of the morning pass by.

I admit that perhaps I was a little harsh towards Shralp. While callous, his post is largely valid. I could go through this and my previous posts, cross referencing for the slightest hypocrisy, but quite frankly its not worth the time and effort. I've said my piece and this is all you'll hear from me on this topic.

 

ArchAngel:
I don't think you're taking this the way it was intended to be taken

Noone ever said it was necessary to correct every single mistake from every single post. The Grammatical Moron of the week award was meant to encourage those who DO KNOW better to use the correct spelling and grammar. I'm quite sure Taluntain is aware of his purpose behind the award and doesn't need to be given "points" to make him see what you do. There is no need to get petty about it.

 

Weee.

I don't believe the post I made was meant to be mean or hurtful to those who do make grammatical errors in their posts. It was originally intended simply to have fun.

ohhh. That sounds like something I have read before.

I am just teasing Tal, on how to make this work in practice. You do know how to giggle don't you? please do. We can agree that my post was far less obnoxious that Shralp's. Ok? And you understood his intentions and not mine. The human mind is a work of art.

[This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 21, 2001).]

 

My original post was not meant to be mean or hurtful either. It was meant to be effective. Maybe if people know that, when they do these things, others find them obnoxious they wouldn't do them -- or at least might give it a second thought.

Next time I'll put five miles of disclaimers at the beginning of my post so as not to hurt the feelings of people who are generally saying exactly what I did in the last paragraph of my post. [Complete lack of smiley.]

 

It is all about style isn't it. Style is everything.

To understand is to forgive
Quote someone I am too lazy to look up now

 

I think it's more about reading aptitude.

 

I have a good reason for making typo's. It is not easy to post here and at the same time helping stupid people on the internet at work. I do two things at the same time, wich makes it harder for me to type without making errors.

 

[Crap, I have to erase then this all too, it looks not understandable now, and I don't like such things]

[This message has been edited by Extremist (edited November 21, 2001).]

 

[Everything deleted -- I was rude to my favorite Croatian. I misunderstood him because I've been taking so much flack here and in the chat room over my supposed meanness. My sincere apologies.]

[This message has been edited by Shralp (edited November 21, 2001).]

 

Okey doe. Should we leave this christmas nagging and preachering behind and find out how to solve the problem of lazyness?

The FAQ is obviously not enough.
This thread probably won't be enough to make lazy newcomers and regulars change their mentality.

So what then? A newsletter in each forum reminding people to be less lazy in their posts, written by Tal? Perhaps a new one each week or month. The key words, I guess, are "coming out to all forums". Making the involved people actually read and understand.

Moderators reminding people to be less lazy. Editing it in the exsisting post?

Assign someone new, willing to take care of the problem as a sort of "Garbage Moderator" whose only job is to keep the boards clean.

Any other ideas? This is apparently something that is really annoying, so either we deal with it properly or we let it rest.

 

How come common sense is not enough? Are those of us who likes the texts we read to be aesthetically (sp?) pleasing a vast minority? Maybe it's a whole lot easier for the person posting to skip capsing and apostrophes, but it's much worse to read for those reading it.

And the posts are meant for others to read, are they not? As it makes little sense for a person to post something in a thread if he doesn't intend for others to read it, I think the answer is yes.

Now, since I have concluded that the person posting obviously wants others to read his input to a thread, why does he then not type in a way that makes his post easily readable, when common sense surely dictates that such an approach would be the best one? Now, the answer to this question is beyond me.

 

Azardu, I completely agree.

ArchAngel, the moderators are already reminding people not to use stupid abbreviations, hacker garbage, and numbers instead of words. They are constantly editing people's topics. They are "garbage moderators" as you put it.

If they let it rest (is that really your suggestion?) the board will degenerate into the chaotic mess that the rest of the boards out there currently are.

 

If everything is fine ArtE why this thread then? Apparently more should be done, else Shralp wouldn't complain. That is just my thought.

Azardu they just don't go beyond the point of necessity. What they believe is enough to be understood. I don't think that is beyond you.

 

Yes, I understand it. But I repeat my question: "Are those of us who likes the texts we read to be aesthetically (sp?) pleasing a vast minority?"

Properly formatted posts have a good deal greater chance of getting read and taken seriously, at least by me. And I find it hard to believe that I am the only one.

There's a huge difference between an understandable post and an attractive one.

 

I answered the other question you had but not this one. It is more of a poll. Me? no I don't mind reading post that lack aesthetically beauty. If I want that, I read a books or poetry. I am a lenient person. Some aren't. That is just life.

PS. You spell that right

 

RIGHT THEN SHRALPY DARLING LETS JUST SEE HOW WELL YOU SPELL SHALL WE!

The word is honour not honor.

Colour not color,
Valour not valor,
favour not favor,
labour not labor,
metre not meter,
centre not center.

Maybe you could chew on that you stupid capatalist *******! Before you critisise everone else try getting your entire bloody nation of the USA (spit) to spell CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just a few more too!

AMERICAN BRITISH

acknowledgment acknowledgement
afterward afterwards
airplane aeroplane
alright all right
aluminum aluminium
amphitheater amphitheatre
analog analogue
analyze analyse
anemia anaemia
anemic anaemic
anesthetic anaesthetic
antiaircraft anti-aircraft
apologize apologise
apothegm apophthegm
apprise apprise
arbor arbour
archeolog archaeology
ardor ardour
armor armour
armorer armourer
armory armoury
atchoo atishoo
ax axe
B.S. B.Sc.
backward backwards
battle-ax battleaxe
behavior behaviour
behavioral behavioural
behoove behove
beside besides
bisulfate bisulphate
bookkeeper book-keeper
caliper calliper
calisthenics callisthenics
canceling cancelling
candor candour
carburetor carburettor
catalog catalogue
catalyze catalyse
center centre
centerboard centreboard
centerfold centrefold
cesium caesium
check cheque
checker chequer
chili chilli
citrus citrous
civilization civilisation
clamor clamour
clangor clangour
color colour
conjuror conjurer
connection connexion
counselor counsellor
cozy cosy
curb kerb
daydream day-dream
defense defence
deflexion deflection
demeanor demeanour
dialog dialogue
dialyze dialyse
diarrhea diarrhoea
disk disc
disulfide disulphide
dolor dolour
donut doughnut
doodad doodah
draft draught
drypoint dry-point
edema oedema
elite élite
emphasize emphasise
enamor enamour
endeavor endeavour
enrollment enrolment
equaled equalled
fantasize fantasise
favor favour
favorite favourite
favoritism favouritism
fervor fervour
fiber fibre
flavor flavour
flower girl flower-girl
flower pot flower-pot
forward forwards
fulfill fulfil
fulfillment fulfilment
furor furore
goiter goitre
gonorrhea gonorrhoea
gram gramme
gray grey
gynecology gynaecology
harbor harbour
harmonize harmonise
hemoglobin haemoglobin
hemophilia haemophilia
hemorrhage haemorrhage
hemorrhoid haemorrhoid
homeopath homoeopath
homeostasis homoeostasis
honor honour
humor humour
immortalize immortalise
impanel empanel
inflection inflexion
inquiry enquiry
jail gaol
jewelry jewellery
jewlry jewellery
judgment judgement
kilometer kilometre
labor labour
lemongrass lemon grass
leukemia leukaemia
leveled levelled
liter litre
luster lustre
M.S. M.Sc.
maneuver manoeuvre
meager meagre
menorrhea menorrhoea
meter metre
misdemeanor misdemeanour
misjudgment misjudgement
modeled modelled
modeler modeller
mold mould
molt moult
mom mum
mustache moustache
neighbor neighbour
neighborhood neighbourhood
neighborly neighbourly
neoclassical neo-classical
niter nitre
note paper note-paper
odor odour
offense offence
organize organise
organized organised
pajamas pyjamas
paleobotany palaeobotany
Paleocene Palaeocene
paleoclimatology palaeoclimatology
paleogeography palaeogeography
paleography palaeography
paleolithic palaeolithic
paleomagnetism palaeomagnetism
paleontology palaeontology
Paleozoic Palaeozoic
panelist panellist
paralyze paralyse
parlor parlour
pedagogy paedagogy
pediatric paediatric
pediatrician paediatrician
pediatrics paediatrics
pedophile paedophile
pedophilia paedophilia
pjamas pyjamas
plow plough
practice practise
preignition pre-ignition
pretense pretence
program programme
pseudointellectual pseudo-intellectual
pseudoscience pseudo-science
quarreled quarrelled
rancor rancour
raveled ravelled
realize realise
recognize recognise
retroflection retroflexion
rigor rigour
rumor rumour
saltpeter saltpetre
savor savour
scepter sceptre
shoveled shovelled
skeptic sceptic
skillful skilful
smolder smoulder
sniveled snivelled
snowplow snowplough
specialize specialise
specialty speciality
splendor splendour
standardize standardise
story storey
succor succour
sulfate sulphate
sulfide sulphide
sulfureted sulphuretted
theater theatre
tire tyre
toward towards
traveled travelled
traveler traveller
traveling travelling
trisulfate trisulphate
tumor tumour
tunneling tunnelling
ultrahigh ultra-high
ultramodern ultra-modern
valor valour
vapor vapour
vigor vigour
vise vice
yodeling yodelling

Does Shralp really love Poodle, does he? does he?

P.S ust for the record so i don't get banned, the little america spit bit was a joke!

[This message has been edited by Sir Dargorn (edited November 22, 2001).]

 

OH... MY... GOD... You actually posted all that? Man, that's gotta suck. I use some british words and some american words.

 

Yodeling? YODELING!?

Ok Dargorn, Poodle-Lad, whatever you call yourself, Yodeling is wear I draw the line!

Next time I see you - DEAD! You can kiss your yodelling fancy-lad-ass goodbye!

ArchAngel, the thing being done was this thread, and the "grammatical moron of the week" award.

Why shouldn't someone be told that they're bringing the quality of the boards down? Have it your way and watch the whole thing just get turned into a mess.

 

ok ok gotta add, that level levelling one really gets me! I have to use it alot at work, and Word wont tell me the right spelling. I've looked it up in the dictionary it tells me that it can be spelled either way!! So which is it. Canadian version would be helpful.

 

What in the desolate plains of the Dune Sea are you talking about ArtE? I am trying my best to come with suggestions that can make this place less Lazy/messy, and all you keep saying is my way is thrashland extraordinairé. Hand me a coke cause I am going dizzy.

Alrighty. One more time round the rolercoaster. Here goes. The ultra condensated version; In my opinion Shralp was rude so I wanted him to behave nicer. I have NOTHING against a cleaner board. Ok? This is me from now on. Mr. Short and right to the bone. Obviously I am abhorrently feeble to get my messages through, if I try and write long english posts. Weee. Happy X-mas

*On screen, number one. We lost all forms of communication.*

POODLE! Behave. (Short and precise, Aye? )

EDIT number 10; Sure, the Plaque(pun intended) "Gramatical moron" might be enough. I can easily settle with that.

[This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 22, 2001).]