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Grammar Hall of Shame

Discussion in 'Whatnots' started by Shralp, Nov 20, 2001.

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  1. Will Gems: 13/31
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    Yeah, I know there's probably no such word as pedanticist. It was a neologism. At no point in my post did I claim to speak or write perfect English (certainly not to degree level, Capstone; Im still in my gap year). I too objected largely to Shralp's style of criticism rather than the criticism itself (although in one of his many quotations he did criticise the lack of a capital letter); what he clearly considered to be wit came across, in my opinion, as unnecessarily haughty pretention in the face of many trivial errors (and, admittedly, a few severe ones which were genuinely sub-standard). Perhaps I was biased by my distaste for an entire post dedicated to what I consider to be a relatively petty matter, or by my empathy for those whose integrity of prose and astuteness of editing suffer with fatigue as the wee small hours of the morning pass by.

    I admit that perhaps I was a little harsh towards Shralp. While callous, his post is largely valid. I could go through this and my previous posts, cross referencing for the slightest hypocrisy, but quite frankly its not worth the time and effort. I've said my piece and this is all you'll hear from me on this topic.
     
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    ArchAngel:
    I don't think you're taking this the way it was intended to be taken

    Noone ever said it was necessary to correct every single mistake from every single post. The Grammatical Moron of the week award was meant to encourage those who DO KNOW better to use the correct spelling and grammar. I'm quite sure Taluntain is aware of his purpose behind the award and doesn't need to be given "points" to make him see what you do. There is no need to get petty about it.
     
  3. ArchAngel Guest

    [​IMG] Weee.

    I don't believe the post I made was meant to be mean or hurtful to those who do make grammatical errors in their posts. It was originally intended simply to have fun.

    ohhh. That sounds like something I have read before. :hmm:

    I am just teasing Tal, on how to make this work in practice. You do know how to giggle don't you? please do. We can agree that my post was far less obnoxious that Shralp's. Ok? And you understood his intentions and not mine. The human mind is a work of art. :1eye:

    [This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 21, 2001).]
     
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    My original post was not meant to be mean or hurtful either. It was meant to be effective. Maybe if people know that, when they do these things, others find them obnoxious they wouldn't do them -- or at least might give it a second thought.

    Next time I'll put five miles of disclaimers at the beginning of my post so as not to hurt the feelings of people who are generally saying exactly what I did in the last paragraph of my post. [Complete lack of smiley.]
     
  5. ArchAngel Guest

    It is all about style isn't it. Style is everything.

    To understand is to forgive
    Quote someone I am too lazy to look up now :)
     
  6. Shralp Gems: 18/31
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    I think it's more about reading aptitude.
     
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    I have a good reason for making typo's. It is not easy to post here and at the same time helping stupid people on the internet at work. I do two things at the same time, wich makes it harder for me to type without making errors.
     
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    [Crap, I have to erase then this all too, it looks not understandable now, and I don't like such things]

    [This message has been edited by Extremist (edited November 21, 2001).]
     
  9. Shralp Gems: 18/31
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    [Everything deleted -- I was rude to my favorite Croatian. I misunderstood him because I've been taking so much flack here and in the chat room over my supposed meanness. My sincere apologies.]

    [This message has been edited by Shralp (edited November 21, 2001).]
     
  10. ArchAngel Guest

    [​IMG] Okey doe. Should we leave this christmas nagging and preachering behind and find out how to solve the problem of lazyness?

    The FAQ is obviously not enough.
    This thread probably won't be enough to make lazy newcomers and regulars change their mentality.

    So what then? A newsletter in each forum reminding people to be less lazy in their posts, written by Tal? Perhaps a new one each week or month. The key words, I guess, are "coming out to all forums". Making the involved people actually read and understand.

    Moderators reminding people to be less lazy. Editing it in the exsisting post?

    Assign someone new, willing to take care of the problem as a sort of "Garbage Moderator" whose only job is to keep the boards clean.

    Any other ideas? This is apparently something that is really annoying, so either we deal with it properly or we let it rest.
     
  11. Azardu Gems: 9/31
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    How come common sense is not enough? Are those of us who likes the texts we read to be aesthetically (sp?) pleasing a vast minority? Maybe it's a whole lot easier for the person posting to skip capsing and apostrophes, but it's much worse to read for those reading it.

    And the posts are meant for others to read, are they not? As it makes little sense for a person to post something in a thread if he doesn't intend for others to read it, I think the answer is yes.

    Now, since I have concluded that the person posting obviously wants others to read his input to a thread, why does he then not type in a way that makes his post easily readable, when common sense surely dictates that such an approach would be the best one? Now, the answer to this question is beyond me.
     
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    Azardu, I completely agree.

    ArchAngel, the moderators are already reminding people not to use stupid abbreviations, hacker garbage, and numbers instead of words. They are constantly editing people's topics. They are "garbage moderators" as you put it.

    If they let it rest (is that really your suggestion?) the board will degenerate into the chaotic mess that the rest of the boards out there currently are.
     
  13. ArchAngel Guest

    [​IMG] If everything is fine ArtE why this thread then? Apparently more should be done, else Shralp wouldn't complain. That is just my thought.

    Azardu they just don't go beyond the point of necessity. What they believe is enough to be understood. I don't think that is beyond you. ;)
     
  14. Azardu Gems: 9/31
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    Yes, I understand it. But I repeat my question: "Are those of us who likes the texts we read to be aesthetically (sp?) pleasing a vast minority?"

    Properly formatted posts have a good deal greater chance of getting read and taken seriously, at least by me. And I find it hard to believe that I am the only one.

    There's a huge difference between an understandable post and an attractive one.
     
  15. ArchAngel Guest

    [​IMG] I answered the other question you had but not this one. It is more of a poll. Me? no I don't mind reading post that lack aesthetically beauty. If I want that, I read a books or poetry. I am a lenient person. Some aren't. That is just life.

    PS. You spell that right :)
     
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    RIGHT THEN SHRALPY DARLING LETS JUST SEE HOW WELL YOU SPELL SHALL WE!

    The word is honour not honor.

    Colour not color,
    Valour not valor,
    favour not favor,
    labour not labor,
    metre not meter,
    centre not center.

    Maybe you could chew on that you stupid capatalist *******! Before you critisise everone else try getting your entire bloody nation of the USA (spit) to spell CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    just a few more too!

    AMERICAN BRITISH

    acknowledgment acknowledgement
    afterward afterwards
    airplane aeroplane
    alright all right
    aluminum aluminium
    amphitheater amphitheatre
    analog analogue
    analyze analyse
    anemia anaemia
    anemic anaemic
    anesthetic anaesthetic
    antiaircraft anti-aircraft
    apologize apologise
    apothegm apophthegm
    apprise apprise
    arbor arbour
    archeolog archaeology
    ardor ardour
    armor armour
    armorer armourer
    armory armoury
    atchoo atishoo
    ax axe
    B.S. B.Sc.
    backward backwards
    battle-ax battleaxe
    behavior behaviour
    behavioral behavioural
    behoove behove
    beside besides
    bisulfate bisulphate
    bookkeeper book-keeper
    caliper calliper
    calisthenics callisthenics
    canceling cancelling
    candor candour
    carburetor carburettor
    catalog catalogue
    catalyze catalyse
    center centre
    centerboard centreboard
    centerfold centrefold
    cesium caesium
    check cheque
    checker chequer
    chili chilli
    citrus citrous
    civilization civilisation
    clamor clamour
    clangor clangour
    color colour
    conjuror conjurer
    connection connexion
    counselor counsellor
    cozy cosy
    curb kerb
    daydream day-dream
    defense defence
    deflexion deflection
    demeanor demeanour
    dialog dialogue
    dialyze dialyse
    diarrhea diarrhoea
    disk disc
    disulfide disulphide
    dolor dolour
    donut doughnut
    doodad doodah
    draft draught
    drypoint dry-point
    edema oedema
    elite élite
    emphasize emphasise
    enamor enamour
    endeavor endeavour
    enrollment enrolment
    equaled equalled
    fantasize fantasise
    favor favour
    favorite favourite
    favoritism favouritism
    fervor fervour
    fiber fibre
    flavor flavour
    flower girl flower-girl
    flower pot flower-pot
    forward forwards
    fulfill fulfil
    fulfillment fulfilment
    furor furore
    goiter goitre
    gonorrhea gonorrhoea
    gram gramme
    gray grey
    gynecology gynaecology
    harbor harbour
    harmonize harmonise
    hemoglobin haemoglobin
    hemophilia haemophilia
    hemorrhage haemorrhage
    hemorrhoid haemorrhoid
    homeopath homoeopath
    homeostasis homoeostasis
    honor honour
    humor humour
    immortalize immortalise
    impanel empanel
    inflection inflexion
    inquiry enquiry
    jail gaol
    jewelry jewellery
    jewlry jewellery
    judgment judgement
    kilometer kilometre
    labor labour
    lemongrass lemon grass
    leukemia leukaemia
    leveled levelled
    liter litre
    luster lustre
    M.S. M.Sc.
    maneuver manoeuvre
    meager meagre
    menorrhea menorrhoea
    meter metre
    misdemeanor misdemeanour
    misjudgment misjudgement
    modeled modelled
    modeler modeller
    mold mould
    molt moult
    mom mum
    mustache moustache
    neighbor neighbour
    neighborhood neighbourhood
    neighborly neighbourly
    neoclassical neo-classical
    niter nitre
    note paper note-paper
    odor odour
    offense offence
    organize organise
    organized organised
    pajamas pyjamas
    paleobotany palaeobotany
    Paleocene Palaeocene
    paleoclimatology palaeoclimatology
    paleogeography palaeogeography
    paleography palaeography
    paleolithic palaeolithic
    paleomagnetism palaeomagnetism
    paleontology palaeontology
    Paleozoic Palaeozoic
    panelist panellist
    paralyze paralyse
    parlor parlour
    pedagogy paedagogy
    pediatric paediatric
    pediatrician paediatrician
    pediatrics paediatrics
    pedophile paedophile
    pedophilia paedophilia
    pjamas pyjamas
    plow plough
    practice practise
    preignition pre-ignition
    pretense pretence
    program programme
    pseudointellectual pseudo-intellectual
    pseudoscience pseudo-science
    quarreled quarrelled
    rancor rancour
    raveled ravelled
    realize realise
    recognize recognise
    retroflection retroflexion
    rigor rigour
    rumor rumour
    saltpeter saltpetre
    savor savour
    scepter sceptre
    shoveled shovelled
    skeptic sceptic
    skillful skilful
    smolder smoulder
    sniveled snivelled
    snowplow snowplough
    specialize specialise
    specialty speciality
    splendor splendour
    standardize standardise
    story storey
    succor succour
    sulfate sulphate
    sulfide sulphide
    sulfureted sulphuretted
    theater theatre
    tire tyre
    toward towards
    traveled travelled
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    traveling travelling
    trisulfate trisulphate
    tumor tumour
    tunneling tunnelling
    ultrahigh ultra-high
    ultramodern ultra-modern
    valor valour
    vapor vapour
    vigor vigour
    vise vice
    yodeling yodelling

    Does Shralp really love Poodle, does he? does he?

    P.S ust for the record so i don't get banned, the little america spit bit was a joke!

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  17. OH... MY... GOD... You actually posted all that? Man, that's gotta suck. I use some british words and some american words.
     
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    Yodeling? YODELING!?

    Ok Dargorn, Poodle-Lad, whatever you call yourself, Yodeling is wear I draw the line!

    Next time I see you - DEAD! You can kiss your yodelling fancy-lad-ass goodbye!

    ArchAngel, the thing being done was this thread, and the "grammatical moron of the week" award.

    Why shouldn't someone be told that they're bringing the quality of the boards down? Have it your way and watch the whole thing just get turned into a mess.
     
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    ok ok gotta add, that level levelling one really gets me! I have to use it alot at work, and Word wont tell me the right spelling. I've looked it up in the dictionary it tells me that it can be spelled either way!! So which is it. :hmm: Canadian version would be helpful.
     
  20. ArchAngel Guest

    [​IMG] What in the desolate plains of the Dune Sea are you talking about ArtE? I am trying my best to come with suggestions that can make this place less Lazy/messy, and all you keep saying is my way is thrashland extraordinairé. Hand me a coke cause I am going dizzy. :spin:

    Alrighty. :D One more time round the rolercoaster. Here goes. The ultra condensated version; In my opinion Shralp was rude so I wanted him to behave nicer. I have NOTHING against a cleaner board. Ok? This is me from now on. Mr. Short and right to the bone. Obviously I am abhorrently feeble to get my messages through, if I try and write long english posts. Weee. Happy X-mas

    *On screen, number one. We lost all forms of communication.* :borg: :mommy:

    POODLE! Behave. :toofar: (Short and precise, Aye? :D)

    EDIT number 10; Sure, the Plaque(pun intended) "Gramatical moron" might be enough. I can easily settle with that.

    [This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 22, 2001).]
     
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