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Dissapointingly easy battles.

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Yulaw9460, Jul 30, 2007.

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    No - I just managed to get 200 or so damage off in a bit under 2 rounds. I had about 5 fighter types with improved haste doing about 6 hits/round, a mage dishing out MM and Melf Minute meteors and 5 or so summons (including a fire elemental) hastened. My plan was to get the dragon to cast its 1st heal (I think there were 2 in the script) and then go in with Lower resistance, slow etc. To my surprise just about every one of my hits came off and did damage and I managed to kill him about 1/2 a second before he got that heal off.
    I think fake talk doesn't work in IA.
     
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    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

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    I'm pretty sure it's unfixable due to the engine, but it could be, that IA circumvent the false talk cheat somehow, but that's not for me to say as I never used it.
     
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    Fake talk is unfixable, yes, but you can avoid putting the player in situations where it can be used by removing the opportunity to encounter opponents blue-circled before they initiate dialogue or turn hostile.
     
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    The battles in BG2 rather suffers from you being too powerfull in my opinion :p .
     
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    Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Veteran

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    Well said Olimikrig.

    Sure that's easy but that's using a lot of foreknowledge. When you don't know everything about the game (not only who or what is waiting for you around the corner -which can be explained by scouting the area first- but also what the opponent is going to do first and then throw at you) you can buff and summon with ease.

    I remember the first time I saw the Shadow Dragon... I thought man that thing is HUGE... :eek:

    A no reload, no cheesy buffs and tacks game would be harder without relying on "improved" battles.

    But I guess this thread is all about saying how big one's sword actually is. ;)
     
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    The game is 7 years old now.. most people who are writing in these forums pretty much know the game by heart now, so no battles offer that many surprises. I remember by first playthrough I frequently got stuck in battles and had to work my way around them. I still remember never being able to defeat draconis with my party so I had to give up. When you know every single thing about the game, it is easy to plan and this makes every battle easy.
     
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    They're not overly easy if you do a few things alot of us older players do:

    #1 - Don't pre-buff
    #2 - Don't cheese out with the same strategy every single play through.
    or

    install tactical mods that make the bosses really really hard.

    I prefer the former to the latter.
     
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    Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Veteran

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    I resent that! :eek:

    How old do you have to be to qualify anyway? :p
     
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    I agree with olimikrig and that is why I prefer BG1. For about 1/4 - 1/3 of a the game the party is vunerable to kobold with bows.
     
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    Sorry for the delayed response, Shaitan!

    You wrote:

    The cheat is actually fixable/blockable (no engine problem). I even intended to block it in one of the previous versions of IA, but when we discussed it, thetruth correctly mentioned that the force talk method is a plain cheat (not even cheese) and no serious player will ever use it anyway. That's why I didn't bother to block it. In the next version of IA I will block it for Shadow dragon (as a sample to show that it's doable). The point is that the cheat needs to be blocked for every single enemy separately and that makes it a bit time-consuming. I don't think that it is worth the time to block it for all possible cases in the entire game.
     
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