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Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Felinoid, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. Shoshino

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    ive noticed that people seem to be set on whether or not it supports these activities.

    the sticker says "contains"
     
  2. NOG (No Other Gods)

    NOG (No Other Gods) Going to church doesn't make you a Christian

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    @Fel:
    lol, yes, that was Job, not Lot. Lot was the one that was rescued from Sodom and Gomorah because he was a righteous man, and btw, his daughters got him SMASHED before they tried anything, so he's not really blamed. He suffers by seeing his daughters suffer (I think they get horrible boils and die or something).
     
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    I'm with Shoshino on this... it states that it either contains and/or endorses the acts described. Just because it doesn't promote one of the actions it lists doesn't make the label invalid.
     
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    Dammit - guess I stopped reading that story too soon and missed that bit - I thought everything was fine and rosy :p
     
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    I've always said that if they made the Bible into a movie it would be rated X. Just depicting the things that are in there (Lot and his daughters, Cain killing Abel, naked Adam and Eve) would warrant the X (or NC17). What it advocates is another discussion, but what it depicts... naught stuff.
     
  6. Gnarfflinger

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    Most of the stuff placed on the warning label is not condoned, and where it is described, it is also forbidden and/or shown in a negative light.
     
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    That's true but the label says "descriptive OR advocating" so it's not a false label.
     
  8. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    I get that, but it just seems to assume that it's a bad thing. Drinking and driving is a bad thing, but commercials that depict it and show the negative consequences are a good thing...
     
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    A bit of the violence-related stuff is advocated, if indirectly. If Moses - who is almost everywhere described as a virtuous man - orders the inhabitants of a city killed, and he is not rebuked for that, that'd be condoning murder, would it not?
     
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    Murder- if you count killing people in war then yes there is advocating of murder.

    Insest- the whole flooding myth ends in incest. only 8 humans survive so forms of insest most have taken place when noah and his 3 sons repopulated the earth

    drinking- one of the first thing noah does is get drunk, whi8ch incedently leads to his youngest son getting condemned to slavery along with all his people.

    fiction- well clearly its a mather of believe, but none proffs for any of the miracles has been found, so strictly it falls under fiction.
    Note: just cause there is proof for the persons involved having excisted, dosn't make a story true. else most religions would be true and so would a lot of fiction novels :)
     
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    It assumes some things are a bad thing, not all things mentioned in the bible. It's a WARNING LABEL that the book CONTAINS information... much like how there are warning labels on electric blankets warning you to not tear the fabric off then lay on it because you'll get an electric shock or burn. The warning label here is that there is content in this book that contains this type of information and goes to list the types of information... that people wouldn't want their kids reading if they're say, under 12 or something.
     
  12. Gnarfflinger

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    So does most of the crap they put on TV, but you don't hear many people advocating that kids not have access to TV until they are 12 do they? They advocate parental guidance for children watching TV. Likewise, when the Bible is introduced to children, it ought to be done responsibly to tell the whole story as opposed to the bad parts like the label points out.
     
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    When's the last time you saw a TV commrecial about incest? "Remember girls, don't get daddy drunk and have sex with him in hopes of getting pregnant. God does not approve!" :nono:
     
  14. Gnarfflinger

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    I can only assume that you are joking there...

    Besides there doesn't seem to be an anti incest lobby that will pay the kind of money to put commercials on the air like that...
     
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    That sounds like you'd prefer children not be told about the bad parts at all...
     
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    Children of first humans (Adam and Eve) had incest relationship too.
     
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    Religeon in a nutshell. All I can say is said.
     
  18. Gnarfflinger

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    Not necessarily, but that it is presented properly. It's not about the sins of the people, but the consequences of those sins.
     
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    Please elaborate. I don't think we have seen the same commercials at all..
     
  20. Gnarfflinger

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    The one that immediately comes to mind is one where it shows a guy driving along (as viewed from the driver seat). It puts freshly emptied beer glasses in front of the camera, making the view blurrier. After about the fourth glass, the driver swerves into a head-on collision with what appears to be a bus. That's a negative consequence, isn't it?
     
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