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An Open Letter to All "Goodbye-ers"

Discussion in 'Sorcerous Sundries' started by Death Rabbit, Mar 17, 2004.

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    I kind of like it here and really don't see what all the fuss is about.

    Seriously folks, like DR said, we all share some common interests. Lets just focus on those, and let our differences add variety.
     
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    Ditto on what Jaguar said.
    Relish what you still have, free speech!
     
  3. Baronius

    Baronius Mental harmony dispels the darkness ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    D ick? How american politicians come here? :D
     
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    /aplaud well said DR
     
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    Death Rabbit your a bastard.

    You skinned my knee and taking my ball and going home.
     
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    /applauds DR

    Good point ;)
    (just hope that everyone that is considering to leave, does just that after reading this... :( )

    Well...
    /continues scraping other kids knees through playing too rough :D
     
  7. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    Are you saying that America is run by a D ick, a B ush and a C olon?
     
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    Ok. Guess I haven't been following much of the development of these relationships here, for somehow this topic seemed... well... useless. Oh ok, what I mean is this topic seems about what you'd expect a 15-yearold to write on a board filled with 12-yearold teenagers suffering from a serious angst. No offense, really it wasn't. It just seemed *that* out of place to me. But I guess it's like I said, I haven't been following. Given the right circumstances, which seems to be the case, that post was a smart one. Sometimes indeed the obvious needs to be pointed out.

    I can say I've had a problem like that in a channel in irc. A channel comprised of the oldest of "Starsiege: Tribes" players (they don't play that anymore). The only online game I've ever played for over a couple of months (5 years actually), and the only one where I ever joined a clan. But whatever our relationship was, it ended a few months back when it became apparent the whole lot of them were nothing but children in adults bodies. As I was kicked out of their channel rudely for the 100:th time for asking a simple question not unlike the stuff that goes on there every day, I decided they were beneath me. Many good contacts were lost there as well, but I've no reason to speak with them as we really have nothing in common anymore.

    The problem there was that a couple of rotten eggs had the admins to do what they wanted with the rest. Any difference of opinion, whim, or suggestion from another outsider more respected than I, and I was banned for a day or two. And the "good people" admins didn't care to object. The obvious in this case is that someone who sits by that crap isn't a friend anyway. Still, for several years now I've been there more because of the huge amount of contacts, information and respect the people had. And it did earn me quite a few setbacks when I made clear I would never have anything to do with them again, and none of them would have access to the channels where I operate in. But, I did what my principles demanded of me, and for that I'm glad.

    Point is, that's not what Sorcerer's is like. There aren't just 2 options here, one being submission, other to flee. Here the admins are damn well making sure none of that crap gets out of hand. No-one is treated with enough special rights to make it a problem. So if someone pisses you off, be glad knowing they're mentally far more immature than you. Report if you can, or if it's civilized enough, just give it right back at them!

    DR couldn't be more right about Sorcerer's Place. This one is a different world from those other mundane low-level forums. Not only because the moderators make a special job keeping the looks here clean. But also because the results of that job is that the average person here is so much more mature, wise and intelligent than anyone on those other boards, that you're bound to get the justice you deserve. I think that someone really losing his nerves over this place would do better to search the answer within themselves, instead of here.

    I have, I did, and got wisened a bit.

    And just as a final note to this novel surely already longer than Death Rabbit's own (edit: well woopsy, it wasn't longer!), is for you to take the Italian attitude. Don't sulk over it. If you're so pissed at someone you just can't contain it and let it slide, then tell them! Do it in a civilized manner, but tell them! To me that "just shut up and do nothing" attitude never worked. Letting off steam is well and fine so long as the people know what's going on, and don't just take it for a personal attack.

    It's like they say, what goes around, comes around. If you have a problem you can't get rid of, you have to take care of it. If people are leaving, it's because of the problems they didn't care to do anything about until they stacked up beyond their ability to ignore. Bring the problems up, discuss them with others, and solve them.
     
  9. Splunge

    Splunge Bhaal’s financial advisor Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Not necessarily; it depends on what they did to piss you off. It could just be a case of over-reacting.
    But do it by PM or email, please; don't clutter up the Boards with personal disputes.
     
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    Even if you are over-reacting, it's better that you have a strong enough self-esteem to let it pass with that attitude. Compared to sulking over it, or making a quarrel because of it. That is, when you have the choice of course.

    And yes, the boards are only good for handling public matters.

    Still bringing the point up is nearly always a good idea. Because if someone pisses you off and you tell them about it in a polite non-offensive manner, and they apologize or explain how they never meant to offend you, all's fine. But if they ignore you, or say something even more annoying in response, or even directly insult you again, then you have the right to be angry at them.

    Due to my temper, I've been in many situations where someone realised they were pissing me off and did nothing to stop it, instead proceeding on the same path. Then there were consequences, and then everyone screamed over how stupid I was for not getting the joke. Wrong. All wrong. A joke is not a joke when the target of it doesn't find it amusing. Wether you choose to purposefully annoy someone because you want to make them suffer, because you don't care, or because it seems so fun to you, or because you're too dumb to realise, makes no difference. The only thing that matters there is that person "A" is using mental violence against person "B", against "B":s will. And whatever the reason for that, once warned, person "B" has a right and duty to respond in kind. Wether with use of mental or physical violence, I don't care. As they're both just as bad. That's the way it is, and if someone doesn't realise that simple fact then they'd better go find their survival instinct before it's too late.

    Needless to say, that text came straight from a billion bitter memories. Lessons that have served me well in life.
     
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    Personally, I just see it as posting on an internet forum, I come and go often.

    People may dislike me but I don't care. :D
     
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