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Algernon and his cloak of charisma

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition' started by Sorvo, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Sorvo

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    For some reason it is not pickpocketable anymore! When did this change?
     
    Sorvo, Dec 31, 2016
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    One of the many EE changes I expect. They changed hundreds of little things. Though I seem to remember picking it in EE too?
     
    Taluntain, Dec 31, 2016
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    Beamdog happened.
     
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    Nope, "This person has no items available for your cat purse skills" or something like that
     
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    That's because you need a higher pick pocket skill in order to steal it in the enhanced edition.
     
    olimikrig, Dec 31, 2016
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    If it wasn't high enough why isn't he attacking?
     
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    Because you succeeded the roll and he did not spot you, but your base skill wasn't high enough for you to actually steal the cloak.
     
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    That seems over complicated.
     
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    It's Beamdogs way of forcing you to invest in the skill (or use potions of master thievery) if you want to use it I guess.
     
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    OK, I'll bite, What is the minimum?
     
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    I don't know for sure. Just quickly tested it in a game I've got running. Could not steal it at 40% but could at 60%, so somewhere between 40 and 60 percent? :p
     
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    sounds good to me, thanks :) I might just kill him instead because I don't wanna waste xp on others.
     
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    Seems easy enough to just use a few potions of thievery, but why even bother for a cloak that only gives +2 cha? I always seem to forget about this cloak, but it never seems to matter anyway.
     
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    It fits my style :)
     
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    Nymph hair cloak does the same thing and is less of a pain to get, if this is to be believed, unless you're really underleveled
     
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    Nymph hair is so small and tangled, I'd just rather go big!
     
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    There's also a quest somewhere in Baldurs Gate where you are tasked with stealing the cloak iirc.

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    olimikrig, Dec 31, 2016
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    Here's the table that determines the required pickpocket skill level to steal from creatures:
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               SKILL
AMULET     80
ARMOUR     0
BELT       80
BOOTS      0
CLOAK      80
GAUNTLETS  80
HELMET     0
RING_LEFT  60
RING_RIGHT 60
SHIELD     0
FIST       0
AMMO1      50
AMMO2      50
AMMO3      50
AMMO4      50
MISC1      50
MISC2      50
MISC3      50
INV1       10
INV2       10
INV3       10
INV4       10
INV5       10
INV6       10
INV7       10
INV8       10
INV9       10
INV10      10
INV11      10
INV12      10
INV13      10
INV14      10
INV15      10
INV16      10
SUMMONED   0
WEAPON1    95
WEAPON2    95
WEAPON3    95
WEAPON4    95
    A value of 0 means it cannot be stolen. Also note that Algernon does not have the cloak equipped, rather, it's in his quickslot (MISC1).
     
    Keneth, Dec 31, 2016
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