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Algernon and his cloak of charisma

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition' started by Sorvo, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Sorvo

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    For some reason it is not pickpocketable anymore! When did this change?
     
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    One of the many EE changes I expect. They changed hundreds of little things. Though I seem to remember picking it in EE too?
     
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    Beamdog happened.
     
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  4. Sorvo

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    Nope, "This person has no items available for your cat purse skills" or something like that
     
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    That's because you need a higher pick pocket skill in order to steal it in the enhanced edition.
     
  6. Sorvo

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    If it wasn't high enough why isn't he attacking?
     
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    Because you succeeded the roll and he did not spot you, but your base skill wasn't high enough for you to actually steal the cloak.
     
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    That seems over complicated.
     
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    It's Beamdogs way of forcing you to invest in the skill (or use potions of master thievery) if you want to use it I guess.
     
  10. Sorvo

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    OK, I'll bite, What is the minimum?
     
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    I don't know for sure. Just quickly tested it in a game I've got running. Could not steal it at 40% but could at 60%, so somewhere between 40 and 60 percent? :p
     
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    sounds good to me, thanks :) I might just kill him instead because I don't wanna waste xp on others.
     
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    Seems easy enough to just use a few potions of thievery, but why even bother for a cloak that only gives +2 cha? I always seem to forget about this cloak, but it never seems to matter anyway.
     
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    It fits my style :)
     
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    Nymph hair cloak does the same thing and is less of a pain to get, if this is to be believed, unless you're really underleveled
     
  16. Sorvo

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    Nymph hair is so small and tangled, I'd just rather go big!
     
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    There's also a quest somewhere in Baldurs Gate where you are tasked with stealing the cloak iirc.

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    Here's the table that determines the required pickpocket skill level to steal from creatures:
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               SKILL
    AMULET     80
    ARMOUR     0
    BELT       80
    BOOTS      0
    CLOAK      80
    GAUNTLETS  80
    HELMET     0
    RING_LEFT  60
    RING_RIGHT 60
    SHIELD     0
    FIST       0
    AMMO1      50
    AMMO2      50
    AMMO3      50
    AMMO4      50
    MISC1      50
    MISC2      50
    MISC3      50
    INV1       10
    INV2       10
    INV3       10
    INV4       10
    INV5       10
    INV6       10
    INV7       10
    INV8       10
    INV9       10
    INV10      10
    INV11      10
    INV12      10
    INV13      10
    INV14      10
    INV15      10
    INV16      10
    SUMMONED   0
    WEAPON1    95
    WEAPON2    95
    WEAPON3    95
    WEAPON4    95
    A value of 0 means it cannot be stolen. Also note that Algernon does not have the cloak equipped, rather, it's in his quickslot (MISC1).
     
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