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A Question of Christianity, Hell and Free Will.

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Sleep, Oct 3, 2006.

  1. Harbourboy

    Harbourboy Take thy form from off my door! Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Sadly, one vital flaw there, HB. Most of those religions have a clause stating "Worship no other being but me" or something like that, somewhere. So while worshipping one of your 7-day-a-week gods you're pissing off the other 6.
     
  3. NOG (No Other Gods)

    NOG (No Other Gods) Going to church doesn't make you a Christian

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    @Chimera:
    By the time the daughter was an adult, she would be married already, so the father couldn't sell her anymore. It is understood that this authority ends when she gets married. Likewise, a divorced or widowed woman could not be sold like this.

    @Rotku:
    I'm afraid Ab's got you there. The Buddhists may not mind, so long as you still don't kill anything or whatever it is, but Jesus doesn't like you worshiping Mohammed (I know they don't actually worship HIM, but...).

    @HB:
    If you haven't honestly seen the truth yet, you will have reason to know it in the future. God gives everyone a chance, so just keep an open mind and honestly search.
     
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    To repeat the question: She has the rights of a slave, except the right to decide whether she actually wishes to "volunteer" for the servitutde, but she is not property.
    So, how can she be equal to a man at the same time?
    If she does not have the right to decide about being sold (nor is she to be let free like the male slaves would) can it still be called "voluntary servitude"?
     
  5. Susipaisti

    Susipaisti Maybe if I just sleep... Veteran

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    Are you seriously comparing Far Eastern religions with rip-off commercials on tv?

    It would also appear that the "servitude" of a girl sold to someone includes sexual services:
    Emphasis added.
    I'd say the boarding school comparison is way off mark. It clearly says she is not to go free as menservants do. Plus you have the occasional beating to consider.
    I'm no medical experts, but if it takes a couple of days to get back on your feet, it's more than a few nicks and bruises, although certainly not broken bones. Concussions come to mind. Also, I haven't found any rules about circumstances when it is and when it isn't justified for the master to beat his slaves.
    So before the marrying age, she can be subjected to beatings by her master? Isn't she a child then? Also note the bolded part in the Bible quote.

    What if the daughter gets rejected by viable husband candidates, and the only willing takers are too poor to provide for her, and the father deems them unfit? Does her father's authority to sell her extend to her adult years, if for some reason she isn't married yet?

    About men's authority position:
    I rather think the answer to be found in the patriarchal culture and men's superior physical strength, actually. The psychology stuff isn't clear-cut. I've heard of studies suggesting women actually make better leaders, so I wouldn't jump at either conclusion at this point.

    Since you still haven't answered this, I'll ask for the third time: what is the Christian stance towards instances in today's society where women have authority over men? Families where the wife makes the major decisions, or a man working for a female boss? Is men's authority a fundamental part of the faith or a temporary phase in history?
     
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