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Wrong class listings??

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Taluntain, Nov 26, 2000.

  1. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    [​IMG] Did anyone notice the weird class listings some NPCs have?
    For instance Imoen and Nalia.
    AFAIK, if you dual from a thief to mage, your class is listed as Thief/Mage.
    (For example Anomen follows that rule, he's dualed from a fighter to a cleric and he's listed as Fighter/Cleric).
    So WTF is up with Imoen and Nalia then?
    They're both listed as Mage/Thieves while it should be exactly the other way around??
    I didn't even notice this until I leveled Nalia for the second time or so and I never got to improve her thieving skills. I just looked at the class where it's written Mage/Thief and said ok, so she's gonna go up as a thief when I took her into my party.

    But obviously I was wrong. Does anyone have any insight on this?
     
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    I didn't know you were playing BG2! Good stuff! My ankle got hit with a hockey puck at last Wednesday's game when I stopped a slap shot and I've been "house" ridden the whole weekend by doctors orders to stay off my foot. It's a lovely hue of purple, blue and red, much like a distant pulsar cloud in deep space. The bruise alone has now run up my leg a slight bit and discoloured my entire right side of my foot. I can only imagine what would have happened if it hit my ankle dead on.

    What part are you at Sorcerer? I'm in the Planar Prison, a deathly place riddled with teleport traps and foul beasts and for what? To find some punk ass Blade NPC who lied not once, but twice to Grub. When I find him, add another dead NPC because of me.

    Viconia, Anomen and next...Haer'Dalis.

    Syl...
     
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    can someone enlighten me to AFAIK and wth it means?
     
  4. Blackthorne TA

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    AFAIK, it means As Far As I Know :)
     
  5. Taluntain

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    Ok, three replies and none have anything to do with what I asked... Grrr...
    Anyone???

    Sylvus, I left you the details on ICQ.
    Actually, I'm in Chapter 3 now doing everything in Athkatla. Already did most of the quests and am just about to plunge underground to the sewers. All the quests have brought me quite a nice amount of XP, gold and weapons/items.

    The vampires are bloody annoying though... I didn't even go the the graveyard yet and I fear to walk the streets at night because those bloody vamps keep popping up and attacking me. And I can't bloody hit them with anything else but slings, since all my other weapons are only +1. Damn. I think I'll need to go shopping soon.

    Yogurt, AFAIK = As far as I know.

    [This message has been edited by Taluntain (edited November 26, 2000).]
     
  6. Blackthorne TA

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    Taluntain - It seems like an arbitrary choice on the developer's part... If you look in the manual under Multi-Classed Characters, they only list Mage/Thief not Thief/Mage, so I would say they only included the listed combinations. I seem to recall somewhere (maybe IWD) that a dualled character would read: First Class Dual Second Class; but that could be a hallucination on my part...

    Oh, and for Vampires, might I suggest your first purchase be Azuredge from Bernard in the Copper Coronet...

    [This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited November 26, 2000).]
     
  7. Taluntain

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    Sure, but who'd wield it? I've had my eye on it but then noticed that the char has to be evil or neutral to use it. None in my party. :( (That is, if I remember right. Could be another good weapon in the CC.)
    My main char is a mage, obviously.

    Maybe for multiclasses chars, but these aren't multi I'm talking about. They're dual class.
    And I obviously got to the bottom of this. The game is simply wrong. (However impossible that may seem).

    First, read what I just wrote about Anomen above.
    Second, look in the manual at the description of the NPCs.
    Check Nalia and Imoen. GASP!
    They're both listed as Thief/Mage!!!
    The same problem is with Jan too. In the game he's listed as Illusionist/Thief, while he's actually Thief/Illusionist.

    Well, here we go then. A serious error to report to Bioware? Not that it's that important, I mean, it doesn't make any difference when you think about it, but it's very misleading when you first recruit a new NPC.

    [This message has been edited by Taluntain (edited November 27, 2000).]
     
  8. Blackthorne TA

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    Yeah, you're right about the classes being right in the manual and not in the game... I'm still guessing that for dual-class and multi-class characters they use the combos listed under the section I described above... All four of the NPC's you described follow that list... <shrug> I'd suggest trying to deduce the reality by looking at the individual's experience; the origianl class would've stopped gaining experience...

    And, about Azuredge, you read that wrong... It's NOT useable by evil/neutral characters, you must be of a good alignment (my Neutral Good Archer vanquished quite a few Vampires with it :) )

    [This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited November 27, 2000).]
     
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