Which stronghold is more fun?

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Hey everybody. I'm giving a Ranger/Cleric a shot, and I understand (no mods) I can only have one Stronghold.

Do I get to choose, or is one chosen for me?

The guy who I'm supposed to give $20,000 told me to go to the Temple District for work, but the kid outside his house told me there's a little boy who needs help in the Gov't District.

I went to the Temple District first. I have not completed either quest yet, though.

Which one of thse is more fun? Is my stronghold already chosen for me (since I talked to the Priest in the Temple district already)?

 

You should post this in the ToB forum as you have ToB.
(Otherwise you wouldn't have asked a question there right before now.)

But IIRC the first quest you finish gives you the first stronghold.

 

I didn't post it in the ToB forum b/c the topic has nothing to do w/ ToB.

Under the rule you stated, I'd never post in the SoA forum since I have ToB installed. I think it's silly to ask questions about Irenicus' Dungeon (an extreme example) in the ToB forum, unless of course you were talking about playing with a Wild Mage or something.

 

Is it unreasonable to ask a moderator to move every topic I've started into the ToB forum?

[Wasn't it obvious enough according to all of the above that you should use PM for anything further? Your topics in the SoA forum apparently didn't have anything in them by which we could tell you also had ToB installed, nor did you have any ToB-specific problems, so there's no point in moving them now. For any new ones you make, however, please make them in the ToB forum.] -Tal

[ February 16, 2004, 10:50: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

You only get the stronghold that relates to whichever class you are: Nalia's keep for a fighter, the planar sphere for a mage, the ranger's cabin in the Umar Hills for the ranger, and so on. If you're playing a duel class character (i.e. a fighter/mage) you get whichever stronghold for the quest you finish first. Unless, of course, you've got that handy little mod installed that gives you multiple strongholds, which is cheating but makes the game a lot more fun.

...off topic...

Re the other issue about posting topics in the SOA if you've got TOB: I was a little surprised at the way this topic was taken. Just because someone owns TOB doesn't necessarily mean they have it installed. Sometimes I play through SOA without installing the expansion because it raises the level cap to such a degree that I can finish the first game at a far higher level than I should be able to. Having the XP cap set to 2.8 million means that my final fight with Irenicus (and a lot of the other later fights in the game) will be more of a challenge because I won't be using high level abilities and spells on him. So that someone has previously posted in the TOB forum and then posted here doesn't mean that they have TOB installed *this time*.

Just my two cents.

...end of off topic...

 

I think the ranger stronghold is more fun than the cleric one. There's a little more intrigue than just standing in a temple and solving arguments. You didn't say how much you agreed to at the temple, but if you've already accepted the cleric stronghold, though, you might not be able to get the ranger one.

 

Well, I agreed to investigate the Beholder religion, and I've added Keldorn to the party. I have not actually gone any further into the sewers than picking up Keldorn (I got him, and made my way out of there).

 

Isn't that the quest for the temple of Helm? If you haven't talked to the Lathander people you should be able to do the ranger stronghold if you want.

 

If you're playing a cleric, you get the Unseeing Eye quest from the temple that matches your kit (or your alignment if you don't have a kit). So as long as you finish the Umar Hills quest before the Unseeing Eye, you will be offered the ranger cabin and the temple will be unavailable to you. However, I believe Keldorn will start complaining (leave the party?) if you pick him up and then wait too long before solving the Unseeing Eye quest. So if you want the ranger stronghold, do it ASAP if you want to keep Keldorn.

 

So does that mean in an unmodded version of the game that it's possible to get both the ranger's cabin and the temple as a stronghold? I always thought you were restricted to just the one.

 

No, you get whichever stronghold you accept first, even if you've started another stronghold-related quest. For example, you're a mage-thief. You start the series of quests that result in you getting the thief guild, but stop to do the planar sphere. Once you complete the sphere quest, you can accept it as a stronghold. If you do, and then go back to the thief quests, you won't be able to gain the guild as a stronghold. Same thing if you do it the other way around: if you finish Renal's quest and obtain the thief guild, you won't get the planar sphere. You can still do the actual quest, of course. So the stronghold you accept first is the one you're stuck with.

Then there's the glitch with the fighter stronghold, but that's already been discussed ad nauseam.

 

I'm reasonably certain that you can turn down strongholds, so which order you do the Ranger/Cleric quests doesn't really matter.

 

Assuming you turn down a stronghold as a fighter/mage (say the planar sphere) and then you take De'Arnise Hold as your stronghold, do all the quests there, is it then possible to go back and take the planar sphere? Or once you turn it down is it gone for good?

 

I read a similar topic on another message board that said multiclassed R/C's don't get a choice: They always have to choose the Ranger stronghold.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm going to go for the ranger stronghold anyway. It just sounds more fun. I also picture this character being more of a ranger inspired by a deity than a cleric who knows how to hang in the woods.

 

I would get the Ranger Stronghold. Noting beats a +1 to rep and a summon.
The cleric stonghold is just about beaten in lameness by the pally one.
And I've never had any of the NPC's complain other than Nalia. Keldy and Valygar will gladly go with you on your advertures thrashing evil and mages as they find em.
Finally once you refuse a stronghold its gone.