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What happens if a personal quest isn't completed before chapter 4?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Klorox, Dec 20, 2003.

  1. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

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    Let's take Nalia's personal quest (the Keep) as an example.

    As many people know, she'll get up and leave the party if you don't go and do her quest in a certain amount of time.

    What happens if you take her to Spellhold before completing the keep? Does she leave the party? Does she stay with you until Chapter 6, and then start whining about her quest again?
     
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    Please don't quote me on this but when you're in Spellhold the Underdark or any other dungeon the timer for every talk except romances comes to a stop, but the romances as far as I know still go only a lot slwoer then normal.
     
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    The Stronghold Ones do still on, hence the reason why you really need to complete those quests before going to Brynnlaw.

    I seem to remember hearing that Nalia won't leave the party in any of these areas, but her complain about not doing the quest timer does seem to continue in certain dungeons (Planar Sphere for example). It is possible, then, that she'll leave your party the instant you leave the Underdark.
     
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    Well, in some cases, if you have already acquired your stronghold, you will not get any new quests related to it until you return.
     
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    Some timers do get stopped, I just don't know which. I had some doubts about being able to maintain my hold of the thief stronghold (I was away much longer then 5 days) but apparently the timer was stopped since I only got a message about paying my dues a couple of days after reaching chapter 6 (the guy you pay your dues wasn't even there when I returned)

    @ Casey
    The only reasons the romance talk seems to go slower is because alot of the locations you travel through are considered dungeons to the game's engine. No romance talk allowed in dungeons.
     
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    Nothing sets the mood better than the charred corpses of would-be dragonslayers outside a Great Red's lair...
     
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    I know that the ranger stronghold quests need to be completed on time before you head off to Spellhold, or you will lose your stronghold.
     
  8. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

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    Are you sure about that? Aerie tried to jump my little Gnome bones while escaping from Spellhold.
     
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    Don't know about Aerie romance but with Jaheira and Viconia it indeed works that way. Best example is when you are in the Underdark. The whole Underdark is considered dungeon except for the lair of the dragon. I went into it after a very long time and both Jaheira's and Viconia's romance talks appeared right after each other although they were never in sync. Reentered the lair a couple of hours later and it did that again. The only exception about talks in dungeons that I know of are the talks you get when you rest.
    BTW check what area you were in, it may not have been considered a dungeon. For a complete reference look on SP for the romancing guide of Extremist .
     
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    The drow city is not, and romance talks can happen there. It's probably a wierd bug, because sometimes it is considered a dungeon. Go figure.

    In Spellhold? Spellhold is considered a dungeon, but because this is one of those "triggered when you rest" dialogues, it's possible that's why it was ignored. You aren't thinking of the slayer thing, are you?
     
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    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

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    I hadn't yet become the Slayer at that time. I was resting after having to ressurect Imoen because she tried to disarm that trap (the one that kills you, and apparently can not be disarmed).
     
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    There you said the magic key word, you "rested". The dialogs that trigger when you hit the rest button don't look at where you are and so can also happen in dungeons. The ones that won't happen in dungeons are the ones triggered by the real time (or sometimes game time) clock.
     
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    Ok, cool.

    I'm playing a Paladin now. I've talked to Firkaag (or whatever his name is) in the Copper Coronet. Does this mean I've started my Paladin Stronghold, or does that only happen when I actually travel to the Umar Hills?


    Also, just to clairfy: I have Nalia in my party. If I can get to Chapter 4 without doing the D'Anarrse (sp?) hold, she'll stick with me until Chapter 6, right? I don't want her leaving!
     
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    You've recieved the quest to get the Paladin Stronghold. Go to Windspear Hills and do the quest there to get the Stronghold, then do what they tell you to do.
     
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