1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

What do strongholds actually give you?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by The Black Raven, Sep 22, 2003.

  1. The Black Raven Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2003
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Remove all ads!
    [​IMG] This question was eating at me for some time now. I've done a search on strongohlds but I didn't find the answer. I'm an archer and have the Umar Hills stronghold, but besides getting a few items, do strongholds give you an income or anything? :confused:
     
    The Black Raven, Sep 22, 2003
    #1
  2. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2001
    Messages:
    8,731
    Media:
    88
    Likes Received:
    379
    Gender:
    Male
    It entirely depends on the stronghold. For example, the D'Arnise Keep gets you some taxes. (But you wind up spending a bunch on "home improvements" to keep it. You do get some decent experience and the chance to be lord and master.)

    The thieves guild gets you some money, but you need to pay Renal his weekly extortion. (Not sure what the improved thieves guild does as I've never bothered getting it.)

    The Planar Sphere results in your very own apprentice who will make you stuff that, I suppose, you could sell.

    The Bard's Playhouse will, once your play is complete, generate income for you.

    Ranger, Paladin, Cleric, and Druid will, AFAIK, generate no ongoing income for you.

    In general, the monetary rewards are not great, especially considering the money you need to put into the stronghold along the way. By the time you are through your stronghold quests, however, money should not be an issue.
     
    dmc, Sep 22, 2003
    #2
  3. Loerand

    Loerand My heart holds no fear for death

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    0
    The ranger stronghold gives you a cabin and a Moondog Figurine.

    De'Arnise Keep gives you a weekly income I suppose.

    The Planar sphere gives you the oppurtunity to travel between areas at no time. And you get an Alchemist to produce some potions for you each week.

    I'm not quite sure about the rest though...
     
    Loerand, Sep 22, 2003
    #3

  4. The Black Raven Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2003
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Moondog? don't recall anything like that. What is it?
     
    The Black Raven, Sep 22, 2003
    #4

  5. Serpent Gems: 4/31
    Latest gem: Sunstone

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2003
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG]
    How to do that ? :hmm:
     
    Serpent, Sep 22, 2003
    #5

  6. Errol Gems: 23/31
    Latest gem: Black Opal

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2001
    Messages:
    1,547
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    [​IMG] Err.. maybe your Planar Sphere does that, mine probably isn't an R-Type. ;)
     
    Errol, Sep 22, 2003
    #6

  7. Rastor Gems: 30/31
    Latest gem: King's Tears

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    3,533
    Likes Received:
    0
    To join the choir here, how?

    You get a couple quests, experience, and items out of each of them. That's basically it.
     
    Rastor, Sep 22, 2003
    #7

  8. The Black Raven Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2003
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello? What the hell is a moondog lol?
     
    The Black Raven, Sep 22, 2003
    #8
  9. Blackthorne TA

    Blackthorne TA Master in his Own Mind Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2000
    Messages:
    10,416
    Media:
    40
    Likes Received:
    232
    Gender:
    Male
    MISC7T - Moon Dog Figurine

    This Figurine of Wondrous Power that calls forth from the ether the moon dog
    Cerebus. Cerebus will obey the owner of the figurine if he so chooses. Unlike
    similar figurines, Cerebus serves through his desire to combat evil and
    forward the cause of righteousness and is not bound by the magic of the
    figurine.

    STATISTICS

    Special Abilities:
    Cerebus may be summoned once per day, for five minutes, and has the following
    innate powers:
    Moon Dog Howl: used once per summoning, the howl damages and instills fear in
    enemies who are evil, while also dispelling fear and casting Protection from
    Evil on party members.
    Healing Lick: heals 8 HP of damage and cures Disease, Deafness, Blindness and
    Poison.
    Moon Dog Sight: the moon dog can see through (and therefore dispel) all forms
    of illusion and invisibility, detecting traps and evil in the vicinity.
    Improved Invisibility: as per the spell
    Mirror Image: three times per day, as per the spell
     
    Blackthorne TA, Sep 23, 2003
    #9
  10. chevalier

    chevalier Knight of Everfull Chalice ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2002
    Messages:
    16,815
    Media:
    11
    Likes Received:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    De'Arnise keep gives you 500 gp weekly, which is more like a symbolic payment for you to feal better as a tax-collecting lord, and it also gives you the opportunity to kick Roenall ass (not Isaea, though). I won't say spoilers, but I've read the dialogues and journal entries in the dialogue file and they're awesome.

    I must try it some day, but I play paladins rather than fighters. I'll sooner use a tweak than play a fighter - it only needs time for me to get used to the thought of doing either :(

    Paladin quests are very crappy, their storyline is a catastrophe, except killing Firkraag whom anyone can kill anyway and get the Avenger. You get some room you can't rest in, and in all reality, I haven't yet figured which room it is :rolleyes:

    Roleplaying-wise, there's no reason for a fighter to be barred from Radiant Heart quests and there's no reason for a paladin to be barred from Nalia's one. In both you need to be good or at least not-so-blatantly-evil, so what the deal. And monks get de'Arnise keep. Monks! Now don't tell me a monk is more into keeps and noble ladies and ruling people than a paladin. I understand that he would be on a constant crusade, but isn't charname the fighter on one? And no paladin would get away with leaving Nalia's home to Roenalls unless his DM had a dependent personality, even if he wouldn't actually take the position.

    I'd rather make de'Arnise keep a side quest for all, where the keep would become a base of operations, and get the fighter a better stronghold.

    There are also cleric strongholds, no one has mentioned them so far. No cash, some fun. A bit like with paladin quests, some assignments for the honchos at the temples. IIRC Lathanderians get the most of fun.

    I know, or recall, nothing about the druid grove except that you speak to ghosts and get no cash.
     
    chevalier, Sep 23, 2003
    #10

  11. The Black Raven Gems: 5/31
    Latest gem: Andar

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2003
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    ok one more thing about the moondog, is where is the figurine? is it in the cabin? I looked
    through the drawers and on the tables but I only found a few magical trinkets
     
    The Black Raven, Sep 23, 2003
    #11
  12. Kitrax

    Kitrax Pantaloons are supposed to go where!?!?

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2002
    Messages:
    7,899
    Media:
    74
    Likes Received:
    96
    Gender:
    Male
    IIRC, it's given to you be the Spirit after completing the quests. :rolling:
     
    Kitrax, Sep 23, 2003
    #12

  13. Blog Gems: 23/31
    Latest gem: Black Opal

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,634
    Likes Received:
    1
    In general, most strongholds give you money. I think the fighter, bard, thief ones give you money on a regular basis (weekly).

    All strongholds give you experience, and extra side-quests.

    Some of them give unique items, such as the Ranger's Moon Dog Figurine, or the Druid's Lion Figurine, or the Mage's Wand of the Apprenti / Dagger of <charname> +1.

    I'm not sure about this one, but I think strongholds do not add any special NPC dialogues though. (I had Nalia in my party for the fighter one and she surprisingly said nothing much)
     
    Blog, Sep 23, 2003
    #13
  14. Loerand

    Loerand My heart holds no fear for death

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    0
    Uhhh, I've read somewhere that you could travel between areas at no time with the Planar Sphere...

    Or maybe I was dumb, again... :(
    If anyone has heard about this, please reply...
     
    Loerand, Sep 23, 2003
    #14

  15. Buck Naked Gems: 8/31
    Latest gem: Skydrop

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2003
    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    0
    The bit about the planar sphere refers to PLANAR TRAVEL, not travel between areas in the game, IIRC. So it's really just a point of prestige, for roleplaying purposes, and not really something that has any practical use in the game.
     
    Buck Naked, Sep 23, 2003
    #15

  16. Rastor Gems: 30/31
    Latest gem: King's Tears

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2002
    Messages:
    3,533
    Likes Received:
    0
    Although, the game flat out tells you that when Lavok dies, the Planar Sphere cannot travel any more...
     
    Rastor, Sep 24, 2003
    #16
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.