Starting with a Fighter... which one?

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Hi there.
After coming to Abazigal with my Stalker and Ranger/Cleric Combo, then dying, a lot; I decided i'd give the good 'ol fighter a go. Here's the problem:
- I've never played a fighter before, not even a Kensai.
- I don't really want to play an Uber-Character, more like one that's fun to play and interesting.
- No Dual-Classing, i don't play humans. But If it's good to then maybe...

So...what Fighter class should I play for my first time...and why? Race? Dual/Multi class? Profeciencies?
Btw, i AM planning to go via BG1-ToB if i can make it.

Awaiting your response,
Gopher

 

Try a Beserker, it doesn't matter what race though a dwarf would be favourite - you get high HP and if you are nearly dead go beserk (unlike minsc you can control yourself) and drink a potion for extra HP until it wears of, by then your enemies should be gone

 

I would have normally said kensai/thief.Take a berseker.next to no penalties.Good advantages.Stuff about:
half-orc.Dual wielding katanas and lond swords.Heres my first fighter:

Akuji the heartless(do you now the game?):
held:helm of balduran
back:cloak of protectin.(improved) hands:gloves of extraordinary specializashion
1hand:CF Equilaizer:hand2
boots:boots of speed.
Armor:armor of Balduran

Stats:
STR:18/00
DEX:18
CON:18
WIS:12
INT:12
CHAR:16

half-orc,lawful good!!!

Thats a good fighter!!

Paddy!!!

What happend.Someone close the second post please!!!

[This message has been edited by Padine the Paladin (edited June 24, 2002).]

 

It's all your choice really...

How about a barbarian? Like a fighter, but you can go into rage all those times, plus the barbarian moves faster than normal classes.

 

I would have normally saud kensai/thief.Take a berseker.next to no penalties.Good advantages.Stuff about:
half-orc.Dual wielding katanas and lond swords.Heres my first fighter:

Akuji the heartless(do you now the game?):
held:helm of balduran
back:cloak of protectin.(improved) hands:gloves of extraordinary specializashion
1hand:CF Equilaizer:hand2
boots:boots of speed.
Armor:armor of Balduran

Stats:
STR:18/00
DEX:18
CON:18
WIS:12
INT:12
CHAR:16

half-orc,lawful good!!!

Thats a good fighter!!

Paddy!!!

 

The elven fighter-mage mc is the toughest warrior-type. The barbarian will beat many of the pure warrior types, including paladins, berserkers, etc.. Half-orc barbarians are tough. I've never dueled a barbarian vs a pure kensai simply because I didn't want a character (kensai) that is restricted from armor (even bracers). I suppose you could get a kensai-thief dc (with greater whirlwind and use any item) that would beat the barbarian. However, that's a power gamer's ploy of playing two separate characters most of the game and the powerful character at the very end.

Half-orc barbarians are worry free. Turn on the rage and they become one of the most powerful classes.

 

"I don't really want to play an Uber-Character, more like one that's fun to play and interesting."

Try a wizardslayer. The wizardslayer is a very nice class to play. He is effective vs those annoying mages (you could have probably guessed that much), but his restrictions on inventory make him more vulnarable when fighting non-mage enemies so he won't be overpowered.
I think a wizard slayer can be of any race, so the choice is all up to you. Half-Orc is probably the strongest because of high stats, but high saving throws could also come in handy.
You said maybe DC'ing then choose thief as second class, use any item and you have no armor restrictions anymore, although this won't be until very late in the game.

Probably the most powerful Fighter I ever played was a fighter dualed to cleric at high level, then you have a powerfull fighter who can boost his stats even further magically. Nice for solo's

Why I personally wouldn't choose the other classes? Straight fighter doesn't give a very entertaining fight all you have to do is attack, beserker isn't much beter the only benefit he has is the beserk ability which could make him turn against your party, kensai is too vulnarable if not dualed, barbarian is nice too though. One more advantage is that the wizard slayer gets 1% MR per level. This makes him less annoying then the other frontliners which will turn against your party every time they get charmed, dominated etc.

Weapon considerations
wizard slayer: purifier for MR boost or that morning star which makes mages lose spells from memory. Ranged weapons can also be nice.

barbarian: Use two weapons : The defender of easthaven in the second slot you will only get 1 attack per round with the second weapon but it is mainly defensive anyway, if you get that helmet that gives protection from blunt weapons, the defender of easthaven and are a high level barbarian you'll have 50 + 20 + 20 = 90% resistance from blunt weapons, try hardiness now A nice primary weapon is flail of ages one of the best weapons in the game and easy to get.

 

can you even get a half orc in BG1? i remember reading somewhere that they were less accepted north of Amn... or something...

but if you are going to start from BG1, try a true fighter. these are very interesting to play, as they have no special abilities like berzerk or barbarian rage. also, try an elf. high dex makes you hit more, but low con will make it a tiny bit of a challenge. having other high stats that you dont necessarily need will make it yet more of a challenge.

 

No half-orc in BG1. If you really want to start in BG1 there is not really much of a choice. It will be either a true fighter or a mc fighter. MC is IMO pretty useless in BG1. It is not until ToB that MC really makes sense, because until ToB DC is more powerful. You could of course DC, but if you DC in BG1 The first class will be a laugh by the end of ToB.

 

Riight.
Thanks for the answers, but as much as i'd like, Half-Orcs and Barbarians are No-Go's (BG1). I'll be trying a Dwarf (for the Magic Resistance, and 19 Con), Fighter, and then make him into a Wizard Slayer in BG2. Just to see what one's like.
I personally prefer the 'Barbarian Rage' to the 'Berserk', as with the rage you don't get winded.

Here are my stats:

Gotrek - Fighter (Wizard Slayer)
Lawful Neutral
STR 18/97
DEX 17
CON 19
INT 13
WIS 16
CHA 9

Gotrek tends to despise magic, and has developed a high resistance to it, as have all his dwarven companions. Even more so, later in his life he developed an extreme resistance, very rare. Even though he is lawful in his heart, he tends not to hold opinions (neutral), and mostly agrees to have Chaotic characters in his midst.

Future Companions and Opinions(roleplay wise)
Valygar - Gotrek believes the Ranger Valygar will be a valuable companion in his quest to root out evil practicers of magic. Even though the ranger's spirit is a free one, Gotrek believes that could only help him against the corruption of Law.

Korgan - Though the Battlerager Korgan isn't exactly nice, Gotrek does not hold him back for anything. the Fighter has more than once proven his mettle in battle, and his inner distrust of Magic is something Gotrek thinks could help his quest.

Jan - the Thief/Mage Jan isn't someone who Gotrek would get along with. The two most hated things of the Dwarf is apparent in the Rogue. Unlawfulness and Magic. These will not get along and will most likely lead to conflict.

Minsc - Gotrek will like minsc from the start, but will be ever distrustful of his unreliable nature. And when it is shown that his Witch is in fact a Mage, Gotrek will not like it.

Edwin - Gotrek will never like Edwin, and won't even appreciate his magicks. But after promising to swear alligance to the Dwarf, i think Gotrek will enjoy commanding a Wizard, showing that even He is above their abilities.

urm..That's about it. I will see how he gets along in the first few chapters of BG1. Should i keep you posted? Nah, it won't be interesting anyway. Well thanks for all the help.

 

You should try to take the charisma to 10.Sounds quite good gopher.

 

Charisma? 10? i dont think so, not with a roll like that to hope for. unless SK has something to do with it...

no way

 

Well, my roll was 92. NATURAL roll. I spent somewhat quarter of an hour rolling.
And im not going to take those away and try to get 93.
And anyway, you get the Tome Of Leadership And Influence (increases CHA by 1 permanently) about halfway through BG1 anyway. So i think CHA 9 will do fine.
Wow, after BG1 ONLY, Gotrek's Stats will be:

STR 19 (+1)
DEX 18 (+1)
CON 20 (+1)
INT 14 (+1)
WIS 19 (+3)
CHA 10 (+1)

, just waaaiiiit 'til ToB.