Soloing BGT?

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What class/kit you anyone say is a good one to solo BGT?

I have TDD installed with the Ease-of-Use pack, but I can't see useing any of the new kits.

What say you, oh gurus of all things BG?

 

There's no need to play anything special just because it is BGT- the classic solos will do just fine.

F/M, F/M/T, Monk, Sorcerer and R/C are all good general solo classes.

 

I thought about a half-orc fighter/cleric. The stats would be killer to roll, but I thought STR 19, DEX 15+, CON 16+, WIS 16+. INT and CHR will be as high as I can get them.

 

Fighter/Clerics are decent enough in terms of power. I would recommend that you consider a Ranger/Cleric though. As well as a bit of stealth which can be useful, you will gain druid spells- namely Ironskin. This spell is the equivalent of Stoneskin and would be very useful in a solo game.

 

Ah, but to be a R/C you must be a half-elf, which eliminates the possibility of 19 STR from the start. A half-orc C/T would also be an interesting solo.

 

What about playing as a triple class? F/M/T? F/C/T?

With a F/M/T, I have a lot of offensive ability with a decent degree of stealth to back it up. Baiting tactics and hit and run assults.

Rolling stats would take a long time to get something good enough to survive, but so what.

Lack of armor altogether sounds like certain death to me, though. Yes, spells and mage gear will drop AC well into the negatives, plus this build could lean heavily on ranged combat. But not even leather armor? Scary!

Any more thoughts?

 

I don't like the 3 class combos mainly because they take so much xp to get to decent levels in any one. It doesn't kill the idea by any means, especially on a solo game where you're getting all the xp yourself, but I shy away from it because of that. That and the F/M/T seems like it looses most of the good things about being a fighter.

Bards are wonderfully powerful in BG 2, especially once you get the chain for them, but I don't know how they'd fair solo. Any combo with the thief would be powerful at the later levels, between backstab and the special traps thieves are arguably the most powerful single class for the epic levels. Here's a build that I've tried out a couple of times: start out as a human fighter, 6, 7, maybe up to 9 levels in that, you won't miss the experience at all, but you get the weapons proficiencies and armor abilities of it, then dual-class into something else, maybe cleric if you want armor, maybe mage or thief or bard, basically anything you want. If you can last from level 1 in that to whatever level you stopped being a fighter in you get all those bonuses back, which means any helmet, any armor, great proficiency in any weapon you want. You have to concider your starting stats carefully, and then concider if you want armor or mage spells, but the potential is incredible.

 

The F/M/T is very good for soloing, but unfortunately the F/C/T does not exist. The F/M/C, OTOH, well, I haven't tried it, but I haven't heard a lot of good things about it.

If you're soloing as a single or dual-class character, you will have way way more XP than you need. I'd push the fighter levels up to 13 for the extra attacks. Oh, and in BG (1 & 2) you can't dual to or from bard, so that's out.

 

True, but he can start with exceptional strength and then use the tome. *shrug* Both ways are equally valid.

 

The problem I have with single class thieves is that they have a terrible thaco table and cant even specialize in my opinion. So that makes them little better than mages in melee combat. What good is backstab if you are likely to miss?

Thats why I prefer Fighter/Thiefs to Swashbucklers, you dont get the bonus to ac, but your thaco will end up way better, and you can still backstab and use the figher HLA's eventually. get the use any item ability and find montolios cloak.

I'd like to try solo one day, its a pity you cant use kits in multiclass combinations or I'd use kensai/thief/sorcerer or kensai/thief/conjurer or something.

on that note, does anyone know which file I need to edit the possible multiclass combos? I'm no stranger to hacking around in a few 2das.

 

It's been tried by modders experienced with a lot more than just editing 2da files, and it works fine until it causes the game to crash. Or so I've been told, anyway.

 

After posting my question I read later in other posts that one can do it shadow keeper. So if I feel the need I'll do that. Was thinking of a wizard slayer/ thief, and/or a kensai/mage. Now that I think of it, the possibilities are endless. I'll guess the resulting combination has to be a valid multiclass combo? So a sorceror/ kensai is not possible?

Another question: If a wizard slayer thief (dualled or multiclass) gets the thief HLA use any item, can they use any magic item too?

 

It has to be a valid multiclass combo and have only one kit. A Kensai/sorcerer wouldn't be possible because there is no assigned fighter/sorcerer class combo, a Kensai/Avenger isn't possible because it has two kits and there's only one kit field, and a Kensai/Blade (not that you would make one) wouldn't be possible for both reasons.

The Wizardslayer->Thief is a popular combo precisely because UAI eliminates the Wizardslayer's main disadvantage. IOW, yes he'll be able to use all the magic items he shouldn't as a Wizardslayer.

 

I saw someone made a mod that let you dual class barbarians. I should track it down, give me a moment.

Ah, found it. Its the G3 BG2 Tweak Pack v2.

Allows barbarians to dual using the same rules as fighters. maybe the made a new possible multiclass combo, or maybe they treat the barb as a fighter with different abilities and limitations.

 

The Barbarian is already considered a fighter kit by the engine, it was just prohibited from dualling like the Archer and Stalker Ranger kits. It's likely all the mod does is removes that restriction. As for your unspoken question, yes, you can make a Barbarian/x multiclass via SK like you would a Kensai/Mage or any other, without the need for the mod (the mod only makes it easier).

 

Yes, I see what you mean. I experimented with shadow keeper today, created a wizard slayer/thief and a kensai/mage.

Pity about only one kit, and no possibility of a kensai/sorc without really modifying the game.

using the experience cheat to see where things would go made me wonder if I would be better off just dualling a kensai to a thief. On the plus side I'll probably get access to a lot more high level spells, on the downside there will be a long transition time and a slight loss of thaco and damage. hmm.