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Solo Fighter/Thief, any good early Halberds?

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by spetznaz, May 4, 2002.

  1. spetznaz Gems: 13/31
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    I'm currently soloing with a Halfling Fighter/Thief with the following profiencys:
    ++ Halberd, I never finished the game with a Halberd character and that was the only weapon I really felt like playing with.
    ++ Twohandedweapon style, for the Halberd.
    ++ Long Bow, switching between Halberd and Long Bow, works really good.
    + Long Sword, for backstabbing since a Halberd aint a Backstab compatible (spelling?) weapon.

    My question now is if anyone played a solo fighter/thief and how they managed to kill Dragons, take all of those Mind Flayers alone etc.

    I'm currently using the Halberd +3 which can be bought at Joluv in Coppers Coronet (it's a addon right?) Composite Longbow +1 & Blade of Roses only for backstabbing.

    I'm planning on having The Wave, The Equalizer & Heartseeker.

    Anyone know where Dragons Bane (I think the name is) & Dragons Breath are located?

    I'll get ToB high lvl abilitiys in SoA since the Exp Cap is set to lvl 40 for all classes.

    Cheers.
     
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    [​IMG] Get Halberd +4 (i think) "Harmonium Halberd" from the Bonus Merchant in the Adventurers mart, its a very good halberd.

    And for the dragons, get something that makes you immune to fear, it will help you seriously!!
     
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    Oh, that's the one I got... The Harmonium +3, +1 str, -1 int & wis ?
     
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    [​IMG] im really sorry, but all i remember about the dragons bane is you get it fairly early on in the game, not where or how :aww:!!!

    dont lose hope yet!!!

    BTW, you get the wave shaft in the planar prison....
     
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    Yeah, I know where to find The Wave - gave it to Keldorn and gave him ++ halberd last time I played and the was better with Wave than Carsomyr :D, though I'll have to wait 'til after the Underdark. :cry:

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    One of the Dragons Halberd you mentioned is on a fighter in the party that attacks you when leaving Ust Natha to rescue Phaere.
    :love:
    A solo Fighter/Thief against Dragons and MindFlayers? Of the top of my head, without too many cheese:

    Dragons: Lay traps around them when they're still neutral, summon as many fodder as possible from items, then hide in shadows and pray your backstab modifier kicks in. As for their Stonesking, just get a whole lot of attacks in, that should cancel it quickly enough. I'm thinking boots of speed or potions.

    MindFlayers: Potions of Clarity, Brine Potions and the Greenstone Amulet will protect you decently against their Psionics, but I'd go with summoning fodder again. Try Ras+2, which summons a nice sword that can't be psioned nor stunned. Only drawback is it stays with you rather shortly.
    Important is to eliminate the UmberHulks first. (Oh, and bring some +3 blunt weapon to take out the BrainGolems :))

    One thing though. A halfling wielding a Halberd, and shoot with a Longbow? :rolleyes: :grin:



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    Use any item is not available in SoA.

    Then again, IIRC Greenstone Amulet becomes unremovable if you do have Use any item ability on your NPC. That is because Greenstone Amulet was casted out of the game because of it's overpowered ability - but due to a bugabuse players still managed to get it.

    Endless traps is definetly cheese and possibly a bug in fact (I haven't yet received any reply on that matter from D.G. - BG2 lead designer, so I can't be more specific).

    Against Mind Flayers will help any potion of Free Action and Ring of Free Action - and that is not cheese.
    Against dragons I would never let fighter/thief alone.


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    You get the Dragon's Breath (A very sweet Halberd :love: ) from the party of surfacers who attack you when you leave Ust Natha to do one of the quests.

    Dragon's Bane, I'm pretty sure, is in the temple district sewers, or is found somewhere on the Unseeing Eye quest (that is, the 'proper' way to do the quest - assemble the rod and such like).

    You can also get a pretty good one: Duskblade +2 - +2 bonus to thac0 and 1D10 +2; +2 cold damage from the remains of the Shade Lord :evil: :).

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    [​IMG] Thanks guys for the help.
    Oh, Extremist - I have ToB so I get the abilitys...
     
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    That means you don't get Greenstone Amulet and that your thread exists in the wrong forum.

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    The Dragon's Bane halberd is in the Unseeing Eye area. When you go down into the Beholder caves, one of the pulsing floor spots in the upper northeast part of the tunnels has the halberd.

    The Dragon's breath (which is the best Halberd in the game until ToB) is, as mentioned, on the adventurer party in the underdark.
     
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    Urhm, Greenstone Amulet being cast out of the game? Last time I went through I picked it up in the beholder lair in the underdark just as usual. And that is with ToB installed, and the latest patch iirc.

    I don't think the plan I described for taking on dragons with a solo F/T is cheese at all. Casting cloudkill into fogowar is cheese. The way I said it, you've got some traps for initial damaging, perhaps even some spelldisruption, and then you've got to do it with a little backstab and pray your fodder takes most damage. Now what part of that is cheese, if you will enlighten me? And what is this endless you speak of?
     
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    Faragon, the traps are pretty cheesy except against the shadow dragon (who can't see you in theory). All the other dragons would just eat you will you were setting them up in a game that had an active DM. I don't see how that's different than casting cloudkill into the fog of war.

    The 'legitimate' way to use traps (IMHO, of course) is by laying them down away from the fight and leading the bad guys back to them. This assumes you've scouted with an invisible character or scrying spell (or otherwise know there is an incipient combat). Or on golems and the like, of course. Unfortunately, none of the dragons can be lead anywhere, so you are kind of SOL with trapping them in a non cheesy way.

    Oh, the endless traps gimmick (which you aren't using AFAIK) is that you can set traps, rest, set more traps, rest, ad infinitum in some cases. Its pretty lethal, obviously. Since there is no 'in game' penalty for resting at will, its problematic.

    As for the greenstone amulets, I think what was fixed was that they used to be dropped by any mordenkainen's sword that was killed. There are one or two intended ones still in the game.

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    Thanx Vormaerin, for clearing some of that up. :wave:

    I knew about the Greenstone fix, but that's something completely different than "being cast out of the game" Luckily. ;) There's only one to be found, and that's in an Alcove in the Beholder Lair in the Underdark.

    And, no I'm not using the endless trap thing. I didn't even know it existed :holy: :grin:

    Of course a dragon would/should react hostile to someone laying traps in his lair. (Heck I would if someone rigged my pile of treasure :grin: ) But seeing how difficult it would be for a solo F/T to take on a dragon, I don't think a few traps would tip the scales that much in favor of the thief. Note the 'few'. :)

    I believe there are some corners of lairs where the dragon can't see you, there you can lay traps to lure him to.
     
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    Since I get the ToB abilitys, I can have Use Any Item to cast scrolls and the Spike Trap to cause a LOT of damage to a Dragon.

    When I played a Assassin, I set up traps at the exit of Firkraags 'personal dungeon' and then attacked him with my fighters, cast spells with my mages etc. When he did his wingbuffet thing, everyone was blown away right to where the traps were, and he followed and took some serious damage from the traps... though I had a full party then and with five NPCs no dragon is hard to kill.

    Cheers.
     
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