Skills - How to Break the System

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If you take a new class, your max skill ranks grow to class skill level for that skill.

If you have the Able Learner feat, you pay 1 point per 1 point, not altering the maximum.

Combine multiclassing with Able Learner and that's like having a Class Skill: Everything feat.

As an example, a rogue multiclassed with druid should have pretty much all skills in the game as class skills. A fighter with just a single level in any class with talking skills will have good talking skills and make a great protagonist, being a frontliner and the talker in one person. A fighter/rogue with 2 rogue levels will basically rock at everything - just no Sneak Attack for him, nor rogue special feats. Basically, any fighter mix will benefit from this, especially if it's a 14 INT go-for-weaponmaster build. A rogue(2)/wizard(x) will have heaps of skills with his INT and will actually beat normal rogues to INT-based skills, of course (and think of his Appraise). Tumble for everyone is another possibility. Or Spellcraft, or crafting skills, or Use Magical Device, or Concentration on servers with Taunters, or Appraise for more gold, which is always useful, or even Spot and Listen to detect threats, or Lore, or whatever you like but one of your classes doesn't have as class. In addition, it makes it easier to get skill requirements for prestige classes and removes much of the need to take single levels in certain classes at later times.

Discuss.

 

Nothing to discuss...Powergamer!

 

I assume this is just an aspect of 3.5 rules. It was the same, as I recall, in ToEE. The fact that you get close to a dozen henchmen makes it hardly necessary to max out every possible skill on the PC though.

 

That's correct. Although if you go the high-INT fighter route, you don't really have skills to take unless you want to be the crafter. However, it's not like a fighter will cry over 2 levels into rogue for -1 AB. With that kind of fighter/rogue, you basically don't need another rogue in your party and you can take another NPC instead. Or Ranger/Rogue(2), even better.

 

lovely, my favorite class combinations, tends to be fighter/rogues. im a Melee dude.

 

That's assuming you have the skill points to spare. With a mostly fighter build, you get, what, 3-4 skill points per level (unless you are willing to start with INT 14, which I do not think many fighters do).

You can hardly became a jack of all trades with that, but of course, being able to raise you Tumble is good

 

Many fighters will want 13 INT for Whirlwind, so might as well take 14 from start (and it costs 1 point for 1 point at that stage). If they are human, that's 5 skill points per level and since fighters don't really have a single class skill you'd care for... Except you start as a rogue or ranger to trigger the skills becoming class skills for the purpose of maximum rank.

 

Bah! Whirlwind is useless