Sarelith Take Two

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Well, finally got my R/C through BG1 and now I'm going to try to do the Sarelith mod again, although I'm going to take a different party this time. Here's the planned setup:

PC R/C dual wield FoA (IMoD on switch) w/Defender of Easthaven

The other thing I'm considering here is actually taking the boring cleric stronghold instead of the ranger stronghold. It's been a while since I've done either stronghold, but from what I remember, the amount of XP available for each stronghold is about the same, and I'll get a more useful item (Ring of Holiness) from doing the cleric stronghold than I'll get from doing the ranger stronghold - the dog figurine. Granted, the Ring of Holiness is no great item as it doesn't give bonus spells beyond level 4, but the dog figurine is next to useless as a summons. Am I forgetting something regarding the strongholds?

The other thing that I found out from my first playthrough is that Sarelith is probably the one NPC (especially concerning mods) that has absolutely nothing spectacular about any of her stats. She gets no strength bonus, no constitution bonus and no dexterity bonus, meaning she's a super item leach. She basically needs the girdle of fortitude, the gauntlets of dexterity and a strength-enhancing item to become worthwhile. In fact, she's the reason my PC is going to be using the Defender of Easthaven. With her gauntlet and girdle slots already taken, she's going to need the strength enhancement from a weapon, and Crom is the most logical choice as she is already specialized in war hammers.

 

I've heard the moondog is quite good against beholders.

 

I have a R/C as well.
How do you get the cleric stronghold?

 

You have to complete the Unseeing Eye Quest to get the cleric stronghold.

Why is the moondog useful against beholders? Is it immune to their gaze?

 

Hmm. I finished the unseeing eye quest, yet no stronghold. Is that normal? My PC is a half-elf R/C

 

Do you already have the ranger stronghold? If not, then you should be approached by a priest from one of the temples, according to your alignment, as I recall.

 

no, I do not have the Ranger Stronghold yet. I haven't been to that area yet.
I finished the Unseeing eye, got the reward from the Helm temple, but no priest approached me yet. My PC is chaotic-good.
thanks.

 

If you are chaotic good, then it is strange you were not given the quest from the Priest of Lothander. The church you work for is based on your alignmnet - Helm for neutral, Lothander for good, and Talos for evil. Being given the quest by the Temple of Helm is the default option - i.e., if you aren't a cleric, the Temple of Helm will give you the quest. I do not know why you wouldn't have been approached by the Temple of Lothander (unless, of course, you already accepted the Ranger stronghold, which you said you didn't).

 

Yes it is strange..
I was a approached by the Helm priest directly, and finished the quest. Perhaps I should have spoken with the priest of Lothander before accepting the quest from Helm?
Is there any way to get the priest stronghold another way, or do I need to give up on that?
I wanted to try out the priest stronghold, but I guess I'll go with the ranger one if I can't get it

 

I know of no other way to get the priest stronghold other than by doing the quest from the appropriate temple. The strange thing is, as a good-aligned cleric, you should never have been approached by a member of the Temple of Helm in the first place. A priest from the Temple of Lothander should have approached you.

That having been said, you're not missing out on that much by taking the ranger stronghold instead of the cleric stronghold. The cleric stronghold is probably the least interesting of all the strongholds out there. The only reason that I was considering it is that you can get a Ring of Holiness, which grants the wearer an additional spell for levels 1-4. If you're like most people, and you have your cleric with an 18 wisdom (21 if you went through BG1 first), then the additional 4 spells is pretty paltry. If you've never done the Ranger stronghold either, then it is by far the more interesting option.

 

Ok thanks.
I guess it must have been some sort of bug, or I didn't do things in the right order -maybe it has to do with the fact I am multi-class?
I'll definitely try the Ranger one

 

There's a bug wich doesn't allow you to get the cleric stronghold when playing R/C multi. I don't remember where I read this either here on BoM or on the G3 board.

I Think it has been addressed in a fixpack, but I'm unsure about this.

There must be others here, who will know about this...

 

This problem is discussed in this thread:

Ranger/Cleric Stronghold Bug Fix (Scroll Down)

I dimly recall that another mod/fixpack addresses the bug, but I always play with multi-stronghold, so I can't be sure.

 

The girdle of fortitude can be removed without losing the CON bonus. So, another option is simply to activate it, then immediately swap it for a girdle of giant strength.

 

Just SK her physical stats up; I know I will. Cavaliers are supposed to have a minimum of 15 in STR, CON, & WIS by PnP rules. Or 15 in STR, DEX, & CON, and 10 in INT & WIS if you go by the Cavalier warrior kit rather than the Chevalier paladin kit, but that puts double digit minimums on all six stats. Of course, I'll be shifting other skills down to compensate.

 

Shaitan and Gregor are right. While playing last night, I entered the temple district prior to doing the Umar Hills quest, and sure enough, I was approached by the Cleric of Helm. Is it just with ranger/clerics? I am sure I've done the cleric stronghold before, but I don't recall ever having played a straight cleric, so I'm thinking that other cleric multi-classes must work OK.

 

hmm, I guess it's abug then. Except if the designers felt a R/C was really more a ranger than a Cleric to begin with.
Then off to the Hills I go for my stornghold!

 

AFAIK: Yes

 

You're going to have to make her dumb as dirt. I think her strength and wisdom are 15, so that meets the minimums. However, her constitution and dexterity are both 12. So she needs 6 points in stats. You have very little wiggle room in the charisma category (she has 18, so you can lower it by 1), meaning 5 of those 6 points are coming from intelligence.

 

Actually, I think her DEX is 14 and her CON is 12. What I was originally planning on doing was shifting CON, INT, & WIS around, to make 17 CON, 12 INT, and 14 WIS, but I'd forgotten about the WIS thing. So I'll probably have to take two points from INT and add one to WIS, in addition to the shifts. That makes: 16, 14, 17, 10, 15, 18. With no DEX requirement, that'll be fine, and won't change her character that much.

Or, I could just make my own rolls. Either way, I'm not going to make her an idiot; I'll use DEX as the primary dump stat, and thus she's sure to get the Gauntlets of Dexterity.