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RP help

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Ilmater's Suffering, Jan 24, 2006.

  1. Ilmater's Suffering Gems: 21/31
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    one of the many characters I have in BG2 is a in a dilemma and I need some help RPing him regarding the situation with Valygar. My PC is a rather... particular Lawful Evil character, he follows Helm, is completely obsessed with his honor and as well obsessed with making sure the law if followed to the letter, such as he sees himself no better then a base criminal if he were to kill someone who has broken no law (any criminal and it's a whole different story, if the local authorities don't deal with the criminal, he will). My PC's evil tendencies only come through when he's satisfied the conditions that his evil actions don't break the law (he despises the vast majority of chaotic characters with a passion) and are not dishonorable.

    My problem lies in that Elharn (my PC) learns that Valygar killed the Cowled Wizards (the fact that the Cowled Wizards don't always operate within the law doesn't give them the same leeway in my PC's mind to become the law like a truly lawful organization) in self defense, Valygar was exercizing his strength within the course of the law, as anyone of any "real" strength does. However he also gave his word to bring Valygar to the Cowled Wizard and to not do so would dishonor my PC in his mind.

    Here in lies the impass, the catch 22, since my PC can't bring Valygar before some sort of tribunal I'm having troubles figuring out the course of action to take. I'm not asking anyone to RP this for me, but in general, what do most of you guys do situations in BG2 force your PC into a situation in whichever route he or she takes goes against his or her morals (regardless of how corrupted they might be)? For some reason justifying having my Cavalier kill the cowled wizard for Edwin was easier then this part... (and it was all for nothing too, my paladin dirtied his hands for a man who only betrayed him in the end... well maybe that wasn't all for nothing, that was one less highly corrupt wizard for good magic users to worry about)
     
  2. Felinoid

    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    Actually, the loophole is very obvious: You never told the Cowlies you'd let them keep Valygar. :evil: All you promised was that you would bring him to justice, but as soon as you have, you can switch sides and tell Tolgerias off. I've done it several times as an LG player who finds out that the 'criminal' they've been sent after is being unjustly persecuted. It typically involves fighting your way back out from where you delivered him, but it's worth it to keep your word and do the right thing. In this case, Tolgerias will just leave in a huff and you'll be fine.
     
  3. Ilmater's Suffering Gems: 21/31
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    ah thank you.
     
  4. starwalker Gems: 16/31
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    With Lawful evil they are willing to break the rules when they feel they can get away with it and it's to their advantage. so yeah. What Felinoid says totally covers your back.
     
  5. Ilmater's Suffering Gems: 21/31
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    The character that this PC in BG2 is based on doesn't fit perfectly with any alignment. He would think himself a Lawful Neutral character, the law is all important to him, chaos is a tool that the weak use to over come the strong, a strong creature adheres to laws and codes which dictate his actions because he is strong enough to act with eveyone aware of his actions. Hence is more willing to work with a Nephilim Paladin then he is a chaotic evil character (he particularily hates chaotic evil characters as their chaotic selfish actions are more often at odds with his actions then other alignments, Tanar'ri he hates above all else).

    He's very ideological in nature, this PC will go out of his way to defend the lawful society in which he exists, as he realizes/believes at the failure to enforce one law sets the precedent for other laws to be broken and his heavily regulated, honor bound and proper personality really needs the law to exist without a serious disadvantage.

    However he's not exactly "neutral" in regards to good and evil, he's exceedingly narcissistic and his actions are entirely dependent on his own gain (even his ideological bend benefits him), he'll not hesitate to perform any action, regardless of it's moral ramifications so long as it's not criminal and dishonorable (in the strictest sense). He's sort of a defender of upper society, he believes strongly in the feudal class structure, the weak serve to benefit the strong, but he seems to believe that the superior classes are honor bound, because they are better, to rule in such a faction that the kingdom benefits (if the serfs feel they're suffering for this, tough luck, they're too stupid to realize what's good for them right?), hence taxing for personal luxury irritates him, while instead spending that money to raise and moblize an army for conquest does not. Sort of a byproduct of not having to have wanted for things in his life, material pocessions seem insignificant, while power is all consuming.

    I suppose in the end he's a lawful character with an inclination towards evil, he's a lot easier then the character he's based on at least.

    [ January 27, 2006, 02:08: Message edited by: Ilmater's Suffering ]
     
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