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POLL: Would you mind your girlfriend/fiancee/wife being a scantily clad booth babe?

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by chevalier, May 14, 2005.

  1. chevalier

    chevalier Knight of Everfull Chalice ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    Most expos are centred around flashy display of violence on screens and flashy display of partial female nudity. Most hungry male geeks flock to booth girls, hit on them, want photos etc. Most would probably die for a date.

    But would any guy really like his girlfriend to dress like that? Would you like your girlfriend to parade half-naked before other guys? Would you really not mind her standing in front of a male crowd in skimpy lingerie kind of clothing for hours?

    I certainly would mind, for one.

    Wonder how this looks for other guys. Answer honestly and don't try to be more proper/open-minded than you really are.

    Don't know how to phrase it for ladies but, of course, you are also invited to participate.

    Here are some links for reference:

    http://gallery.pimprig.com/showgallery.php?cat=539
    http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/e3-floor-team-booth-babes-016151.php
    http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/report/e3expo2003_babes/page01.php
    http://www.actiontrip.com/features/e3boothbabes.phtml
    http://www.e3girls.com/display.cfm?startrow=1&pagenum=1&type=full&query=full

    I got the idea of this thread when I thought "Don't those girls have boyfriends or husbands?"

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    Poll Results: Would you mind your girlfriend/fiancee wife being a booth babe? (48 votes.)

    Would you mind your girlfriend/fiancee wife being a scantily clad booth babe? (Choose 1)
    * Yes, sure as hell I would have a problem with it. - 50% (24)
    * No, why? I would have no problem with it. - 38% (18)
    * I don't have an opinion or don't want to vote. - 13% (6)
     
  2. Morgoroth

    Morgoroth Just because I happen to have tentacles, it doesn'

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    EDIT: I hate misunderstanding the poll, anyway I edited my first answer away where I misunderstood the question.

    Anyway I would not mind if I was not headed to a more serious relationship with her. If I wanted to marry her in the future then yes I would mind.

    EDIT: I'm however not sure if it would be enough to destroy the relationship. If I liked and enjoyed all other qualities in her then I guess I could live with it. ;)

    [ May 15, 2005, 00:13: Message edited by: Morgoroth ]
     
  3. Barmy Army

    Barmy Army Simple mind, simple pleasures... Adored Veteran

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    I've never had and will never have a proper slapper girlfriend. If I had a chick who dolled up like a slapper, it would proper rile me.
     
  4. Harbourboy

    Harbourboy Take thy form from off my door! Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    If I was completely secure in every other aspect of my relationship then, sure, why not? It's no different to being a model or movie star or pop singer. It's not like she's a stripper or porn star.
     
  5. chevalier

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    What makes the difference between this and being a stripper or porn model, except a couple of limits? After all, one can already see half the breasts with nipples from under some of those tops and some of the bottoms probably need pubic hair shaving to wear.

    As for non-porn models, I see some difference: even when they are modelling lingerie, it isn't intended to be provocative or sexually fulfilling to watch. I would, however, have a problem with transparent or too skimpy lingerie. Or with a style suggesting sexual openness.
     
  6. Harbourboy

    Harbourboy Take thy form from off my door! Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Um, Chevalier, you obviously look at lingerie models in a completely different way to me, if you don't think they are sexually provocative . . . . .

    The huge difference is that a porn star has sex with many men several times a day. That's a whole world away from wearing skimpy clothes to promote a product. The skimpy outfits these girls are wearing are no worse than what you see women wearing at many beaches around the world. On Mediterranean beaches half the women are topless. So if she's going to be half naked when at the beach, she might as well get paid to be half naked at an expo. That's fine, in my book.
     
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    Chev, seriously, have you ever been to the beach? Do they have bathing suits in Poland? Do they have beaches in Poland?

    um. You've never actually seen lingerie. ever. The only reason it exists, is to be "provacative or sexually fulfulling to watch."

    It serves no other function.
     
  8. Gnarfflinger

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    I seriously doubt that I would end up with a booth babe, but I could live with it. This job has something of a shelf life. By the time you're in your 30's you're probably on to something else anyway.

    Also, The places I look for women, the women aren't likely to seek that kind of employment.

    But Should I end up with one, and it was a proper relationship (complete fidelity), I could live with what she did to make ends meet.
     
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    If she has a great body, I don't care at all. I am not an insecure person.
     
  10. Shrikant

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    Unlike with you Chev, my first girlfriend aint going to be my wife. So no problems on that account.
    When talking of wives, my reply would mirror Gnarf's. The booth babes too are models. The only difference being that they are in a publicy accessable place and not on a ramp. Try getting a date with them, your chances are as good as any other place.

    As far as lingerie models go ... :rolleyes:
     
  11. chevalier

    chevalier Knight of Everfull Chalice ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

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    :rolleyes:

    Let's say it can be sexually provocative, but the intention is to display the underwear that the company is selling and to let people see how it looks when you put it on. It isn't counted on sexually arousing the male spectators.

    Hmmm... OK, Harbourboy, I see some logic in that argument. But I need to say that bathing suits are different from those scanty half-transparent provocatively cut and frowsily worn garments booth babes put on. The whole idea behind booth babes is to give the geeks some sexual gratification from looking. It's all about sexual arousal. That's what they use to promote a product which is often totally unrelated -- like a car racing game.

    As for beaches, it's supposed to be for comfort, sunbathing, whatever. You don't go to a beach to look on naked people but to feel the warmth of the sun, enjoy the water and sunbathe.

    I guess we can look differently on a job offer which is the only one a girl can get, but why not work physically or get some education and work in a different character?

    To me, wearing things which are counted on sexually arousing other men is not in line with complete fidelity. I'm not saying a non-single person should cover himself or herself completely and sneak around lest he/she arouse someone by accident, but arousing people is not something that someone's husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend should do. Fidelity is not about the abstract sequence of moves which is collectively referred to as intercourse, nor is it about generally sticking to one mate for mating purposes. A person who is in marriage, engagement or other relationship is not supposed to seek or give sexual fulfilment elsewhere.

    In my view, when you're in a relationship, doing anything to arouse sexually any other person than your partner, is at the very least imprudent and likely already cheating. It violates some very basic discipline. Do we want a sexual partner (or prospective sexual partner) who gives himself/herself away in tiny bits?

    Of course, if your girlfriend talks sexy with other guys or shows them her stuff, it isn't the same as if she slept with them, but come on, is that really serious treatment? Is it really so irrelevant?

    Well, Shrikant... My first girlfriend was ages ago and I dumped her for hitting on other guys. I can't know if a gf will be my wife in the future, but I don't date girls I already know I would never marry - doesn't mean I won't hang out with them, but... I don't believe in "terminal" relationships.

    And that difference is quite significant. The guys are so close that they can take a really close look and even touch. And most of them do take a look, while many want the touch as well, or photos.

    As for getting a date, your chance are even worse with a prostitute than with a decent woman. Even if you get to date one, there's a low chance that she would put out early. Likely lower than with an average girl. So what, do we now want prostitute girlfriends? ;)

    [ May 15, 2005, 14:07: Message edited by: chevalier ]
     
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    I've had two girlfriends like that, one was a professional model (no nude stuff or anything), the other simply liked to dress sexy, and she had every reason to.

    I never had much problems with it, with neither one of em. You just gotta live with the fact that you never have a girl like that completely for yourself. Then again...it would be pretty selfish to claim someone "as your own". I admit i sometimes got annoyed if certain guys kept hanging around too long, making it obvious that he was drooling all over her, but on the other hand it also made me feel kinda good about myself, after all...i was the one who she went home with on the end of the evening.

    So no...i don't have any problems with my girlfriend dressing provocative.
     
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    I guess it depends on the pay :)
     
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    No problems here. She can wear (or not wear) whatever she wants. If she wants to look hot, then go for it. I don't expect her to go around telling me what or what not to wear so same thing applies here.
     
  15. Harbourboy

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    I agree with Tassadar. I find Chevalier's distinction of whether or not the actions are intended to generate a sexual reaction as being OK in theory but almost impossible to apply in practice. It is too hard to know where to draw the line. You could say that would mean that women shouldn't wear makeup or high heels or bras as all of those things might make her look more attractive to other men. Actually, it would mean going to an extremist muslim viewpoint of having women completely covered up (but then, even that might be a turn-on to another muslim.....). Men and women are sexual creatures and trying to ignore that is too tricky.
     
  16. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    Ok, at first I thought this was a really silly thread. But upon reflection, I was wrong and have changed my mind. But let's change the equation a bit, to be more like real life.

    Most of you seem to agree: In regards to a girl friend it's OK to have such a profession. And I tend to agree. I used to date a "dancer," for a short while, so I can say that it's not all that bad, (in fact, it was great, but let's not go there). But that was before I was married and had children. So, let's say, just for the sake of argument, it's ok in a realtionalship that may not be permanent (some may not agree with this scenario - and that's a given).

    But let's say the girl in question is your wife, and the mother of your children. Often, if one is a normal male, one may not be quite as picky with whom we choose to have sex with, as we are in selecting a wife. The mothers of our children are held to a somewhat different standard than with those whom we choose to "merely" date.

    The voting did not offer such a distinction in the debate. But I can say, from experience, that I certainly hold my wife to a different standard than I have others in my past, more transitory relationships. The standard is uneven, but the situations are entirely different. I'm sure purists on both sides of the debate will see this as "relativism" (that evil word), but I would ask for the considertaion of honesty over "puritanism" in this situation.

    [ May 16, 2005, 05:05: Message edited by: Chandos the Red ]
     
  17. Gnarfflinger

    Gnarfflinger Wiseguy in Training

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    Again, I look at that job as temporary. The assumption is that she would be looking for other employment or furthering her education. I doubt that she's be able to stay at work when she starts carrying a child...

    My biggest hang up would be that I'm in my mid 30's, and most women close to my age are past that stage of life. I wouldn't reject a woman based on that job, but I wouldn't jump at the chance to be with her either...
     
  18. Harbourboy

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    I agree with Chandos but for slightly different reasons. I don't like to think of the mother of my children being a swimsuit model, but mostly because I think of the mother of my children as being a bit older than a 19 year old model, so therefore less suited to even being such a model.
     
  19. Chandos the Red

    Chandos the Red This Wheel's on Fire

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    But say you met a girl in her mid-twenties (not unreasonable) who was a "booth babe," or a dancer for that matter. And you formed a serious relationship. But she LIKED her job. Would you consider making a move with her from a serious relationship to the next level, if she would not give up her profession? I have to say, in all honesty, that I could not.
     
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    Oh, the conversations I've had and heard. Trust me; there are people (a lot of people?) who go to beaches for the "scenery".
     
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