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POLL: Some MOD ideas.

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Register, Jun 27, 2003.

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    [​IMG] Here are some things that I would like to see in a MOD or two. Most of them would be mostly for fun but things like the Anomen-rebalance MOD and Montarons return could be very well made, actually. If I could I would make a MOD with all these things but I suck in modding so I can just sit and hope for someone to pick up these idéas.

    1. An Anomen-rebalance MOD where he gains some stats if he goes Chaotic Neutral. There isn't just nothing to achieve if you want's to have him but you are playing evil.


    2. Valygar romance - He have potential of being a great romance NPC.

    3. Mazzy Romance - So is she. After all, her boyfriend is dead.

    4. Safana with romance - She was a great NPC in BG1 but I miss her and she is very suitable for a romance.

    5. Montaron - He was one of my favourite characters in BG1 together with Viconia, Tiax and Xan. You could find him after Xzar is dead and then he tells you that he wanted to get rid of Xzar and now he had the chance once and for all.

    6. Xan - Dunno how you can put him in but I'm sure it could be done.

    7. Tiax - You could just save him from spellhold and help him take over the world.
    "Tiax will rule all!"

    8. A Minsc-gets-normal MOD. I hate him as he is and that mod is looking very promising.

    9. Dynahier - You could find he together with Minsc and Jahiera or in spellhold for being a rouge mage.

    10. A Dynahier - Minsc romance - We all saw the glimse in Minsc eyes in BG1 for Dynahier. Just work? HA!

    11. An revival MOD for Yoshimo. He is the only pure thief in the game if we don't include Safana so it should be done.

    12. A Haer'-Dalis romance. I heard that is was originally meant to be in the game but somehow they decided to not put it in.

    13. Kagain - He was a funny NPC and a great fighter. But this time he would actually have his correct aligment - Neutral Evil.

    [ June 27, 2003, 21:30: Message edited by: Velve Zauviir ]

    Poll Information
    This poll contains 13 question(s). 24 user(s) have voted.
    You may not view the results of this poll without voting.

    Poll Results: Some MOD's (24 votes.)

    Anomen-Rebalance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, he sucks if you are playing evil. - 29% (7)
    * No, goodness should be best. - 25% (6)
    * Yes, but not the same stats. - 33% (8)
    * Just the results for me. - 13% (3)

    Valygar romance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, he have great romancing potential. - 33% (8)
    * No, he is a quiet loner and should remain so. - 17% (4)
    * Yes, but not with magic-using PC's. - 46% (11)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Mazzy Romance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, she is hot and he boyfriend is dead. Halflings for everyone! - 33% (8)
    * No, she should honour her boyfriend's death. - 4% (1)
    * Yes, but not with evil PC's. - 50% (12)
    * Just the results for me. - 13% (3)

    Safana returns with/out romance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, she were a good NPC and very hot so a romance should be great here. - 25% (6)
    * Yes, but without the romance. - 13% (3)
    * No, she was lousy and boring. - 25% (6)
    * Yes, but a romance with some other NPC instead. - 21% (5)
    * Just the results for me. - 17% (4)

    Montaron returns (Choose 1)
    * Yes, the little stubborn bastard should be allowed to join you without the crazy wizard. - 29% (7)
    * No, let the litte prat stay dead, once and for all. - 33% (8)
    * Yes, and a romance with Mazzy where he changes his aligment or she changes her, depending on any answer options made by you. - 29% (7)
    * Just the results for me. - 8% (2)

    Xan returns (Choose 1)
    * Yes, he was good even without the FireBall or the Magic Missile. - 42% (10)
    * No, evocation rocks so he shouldn't be allowed to return. - 21% (5)
    * Yes, and with a romance with Jahiera. - 21% (5)
    * Just the results for me. - 17% (4)

    Tiax returns (Choose 1)
    * Yes, let the great Tiax arise to rule the world! - 46% (11)
    * No, let him rot in spellhold were he belongs. - 33% (8)
    * Yes, and let him fight against Quayle if you returns to the tent in Waukeens Promenade. - 17% (4)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Minsc-Gets-Normal (Choose 1)
    * Yes, he is annoying now and will always be without the MOD. - 8% (2)
    * No, he is great with Boo and his swords. - 75% (18)
    * Yes, and whack Boo to death. - 17% (4)
    * Just the results for me. - 0% (0)

    Dynahier Returns (Choose 1)
    * Yes, she was a good mage and should return to harras Edwin forever. - 54% (13)
    * No, she was bad and should remain dead. - 25% (6)
    * Yes, and with a romance with Boo. :D - 17% (4)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Minsc - Dynahier Romance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, they are perfectly matched. - 33% (8)
    * No, he should only protect her and not love her. - 33% (8)
    * No, I don't want her in the game at all. - 29% (7)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Reviving Yoshimo (Choose 1)
    * Yes, he isn't evil and should be able to be revived. - 54% (13)
    * No, he betrayed you and should never be allowed to walk upon the Realms again. - 29% (7)
    * Yes, but not recruitable again. - 13% (3)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Haer' Dalis Romance (Choose 1)
    * Yes, as it should be. - 54% (13)
    * No, he is a dork. - 17% (4)
    * No, and delete the one for Aerie as well. They are sooo annoying to have around if I don't romance Aerie myself. - 25% (6)
    * Just the results for me. - 4% (1)

    Kagain Returns (Choose 1)
    * Yes, 20 con kick most enemies arses. - 25% (6)
    * No, let him rot in Baldur's Gate 1 as he should. - 33% (8)
    * Yes, but let him keep his Lawful Evil aligment. - 29% (7)
    * Just the results for me. - 13% (3)
     
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    Anomen - why should he benefit statistically for failing?

    Valygar - I thought someone was already doing this

    Mazzy - Why not? The hair is kinky.

    Safana - Ugh! Didn't like her in BGI, don't want her now

    Monty - Sure, it would be funny after his partner is assassinated

    Xan - Waaaaaay too boring and a downer

    Tiax - Tiax rules all, no more need be said (although I would love to see the Tiax/Minsc dialogues of insanity)

    Minsc - I like him insane, Dynaheir is dead, Minsc romancing a corpse is a little weird, even for him

    Yosh - Doesn't tortured souls (or something like that) already keep him alive?

    Haer Dalis - Sure, make him romanceable. Just keep him and Aerie apart, it's like annoying squared

    Kagain - Kind of Korgan v. 2 (or vice-versa), but extra evil NPC's are fine
     
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    @dmc - I think Anomen would have gotten more wisdom because now he knows that what he did was wrong and he therefore gained the points.

    About Valygar - I didn't know this, but it would be great. Also with Yoshimo I would like it but with a smaller download than the huge for Tortured Souls.

    And at last, Kagain is waaaay cooler than Korgan and he is from BG1 and therefore v.1 :)
     
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    I'd like to have Tiax back again because he was just so demented in BG1. Pity he got missed out for the second game.
     
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    He didn't. He's in Spellhold. I guess you could smuggle him out of there via ctrl+j if you wanted.
     
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    Hmm. Never thought of that. Or I could just use the characters I send to Tal a time ago but I have deleted them and I can't find them on SP. Where are they Tal.

    But that's not the point. I meant a story with him as well and things like that. Not just the character without anything else. In that case I could Ctrl-J Safana, too, before she dies and raise Anomen's stats with Shadowkeeper. Things like that.
     
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    1. An Anomen-rebalance MOD where he gains some stats if he goes Chaotic Neutral. There isn't just nothing to achieve if you want's to have him but you are playing evil.

    It's hard to give him a wisdom bonus in this variant and there's no reason to raise any other stat.

    2. Valygar romance - He have potential of being a great romance NPC.

    He was intended so. Ages ago I was surprised to find his romantic dialogues in dialog.tlk

    3. Mazzy Romance - So is she. After all, her boyfriend is dead.

    Well, some people do fancy half-sized races, no offence to halflingophiles :D :p

    6. Xan - Dunno how you can put him in but I'm sure it could be done.

    He was a nice NPC with an interesting background. Also a mage without fireballs or clouds is certainly not going to be boring :D

    7. Tiax - You could just save him from spellhold and help him take over the world.
    "Tiax will rule all!"

    Ekhm... are you serious? I'd rather say babysit him.

    8. A Minsc-gets-normal MOD. I hate him as he is and that mod is looking very promising.

    No reason to hate him, but it would be nice to see his sanity finally restored.

    9. Dynahier - You could find he together with Minsc and Jahiera or in spellhold for being a rouge mage.

    Do you mean red mage or thief/mage?

    10. A Dynahier - Minsc romance - We all saw the glimse in Minsc eyes in BG1 for Dynahier. Just work? HA!

    Good idea. Very good one. If someone would make a nice story about how she in fact survived without changing Minsc's dialogues and only blocking the one with Aerie...

    11. An revival MOD for Yoshimo. He is the only pure thief in the game if we don't include Safana so it should be done.

    He's as dead as dead can be. Even his heart is delivered to Ilmater. Let's leave him so.

    12. A Haer'-Dalis romance. I heard that is was originally meant to be in the game but somehow they decided to not put it in.

    Yes, also a good idea. I wouldn't play it anyway, but I would definitely read the dialogues.

    13. Kagain - He was a funny NPC and a great fighter. But this time he would actually have his correct aligment - Neutral Evil.

    Why shouldn't his true alignment be his original LE? He didn't seem especially goody goody, but no alignment could be guessed with acceptable accuracy. There are lawful thieves and chaotic law abiders too.
     
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    [​IMG] I'd noticed Valygars' dialogues as well. And Tried stringing a few together. They seem, interesting, as far as I can tell.

    A while ago I started a Haer'Dalis Romance, I'd got a few things from dialog.tlk and asking a few other SP members to help. However I had to put it on hold when I lost the game and my little helpers vanished. So perhaps if I can gather more I could restart it. Maybe make it a double with Valygar. Still, Mazzy might want to keep her squire. ;)

    Just an addon - You can find Montarons corpse in the harper stronghold after Xzar is dead. Maybe he could be taken and revived? Maybe the Harpers kicked his arse so hard he could never be...
     
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    @Chevalier

    1. As I said he should earn a lot of wisdom because now he knows what's wrong and what's right.

    7. Yes, I mean it. He is soo cool and could get pretty useable, too, as a gnome Thief/Cleric with 16 DEX. (I have forgotten the WIS.)

    13. He is living and adventuring for wealth and money and he wouldn't even stop to consider if he should betray his friends for money. He would just do it. He is THE Neutral Evil.
     
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    1) Ano definitely should get at least some advantage to been evil. Maybe make his alignment evil instead of neutral so he fits in better with evil groups? Or maybe give him special ablilities?

    2) Tortured Souls includes a Valygar romance.

    3) I've always said that Mazzy should be romanced. I like her.

    4) Hmm, by the time you find her in the forests, you are pretty late in the game so you wouldn't have time to develop romance. Unless you put her somewhere else. But she's kinda...hard to romance, I can't picture her staying with one guy.

    5) If Monty comes back, Xzar should then DEFINITELY come back. By the way, the Darkest Day already does this but that mod is extremly buggy.

    6) Xan absolutly rocks! He definitely should come back.

    7) Don't think he should fight Quayle, just exchange insults. Aerie would go berserk if anyone attacks Quayle. I like this guy, but he's a lousy cleric and not that good of a thief.

    8) Hell no. Minsc wouldn't be Minsc if he's normal.

    9) Yeah, she's quite cool, although you'd have to change a lot of Minsc-Edwin banters.

    10) No way! Minsc is...well...Minsc.

    11) Tortured Souls already does this.

    12) There was going to be one in the oringinal game but they apparently didn't have time to do it. This should definitely be made. Although somebody else is already doing it.

    13) I always thought Kagain is Korgan's brother. No, I like him, but he shouldn't return. One dwarven mercenary is quite enough.
     
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    1) Not a bad idea
    2) One completed (Tortured Souls), two in progress (check the FWStudios forums)
    3) Planned as part of a halfling improvement mod
    4) Um...she's a heartless wench...lol
    5) Interesting...
    6) Done. Xan for ToB soon to come out of beta. Check here: http://shadowtalon.250x.com/xan.htm
    7) Another interesting idea
    8) NO! Make him sane and he has no personality.
    9) At least three mods out there are being developed with Dynaheir as part of them
    10) Talked about at Forgotten Wars, but never came to fruition
    11) Check out the Tortured Souls mod
    12) Check the Chosen of Mystra forums--in development
    13) We could always use more dwarves. It'd be great to see some banter between him and Korgan
     
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    1) Couldn't care less. I never play evil so this doesn't matter. I guess it would be good to have more choice though.

    2) Once again it would be good to have more choices

    3) Yes, that would be a good idea!

    4) Whose this?

    5) Yeah that would be a good idea, it's always good to have more options

    6)Na, never liked him

    7)Hehe, he sounds just like me, and I can't have to much compition when trying to take over the world, can I. But it would be funny!

    8)NO! Minsc normal, how dare you even suggest that :shame:

    9)Yeah, I guess that would be cool

    10)Na, it just wouldn't suit Minsc's personality to romance someone he's ment to be protecting

    11) No, it would meant you would have to completly modify the story.

    12) Yeah, isn't this already made though?

    13) Another evil fighting dwalf? :toofar: :nono:
     
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    Not much to say but here we go:

    I think Minsc should become normal so that I can actually stand to have the twit in my party. His witch could come back as well...I don't really care. I personally feel that there are enough spell casters in BG2.

    As for the possible male romances, I think they should be done a.s.a.p. so that the females of the world can have more of a choice than either Anomen or loneliness.

    As for the return of Xan, I defiantly think he should come back! Reasons: The website that I have partial ownership to is named after him, I always liked him in BG1, and I've always felt bad that he gets killed by a simple giant spider in the book Baldur's Gate. Also, it would create a lot of interaction if he tried to romance Jaheira while you were trying to do the same. :rolling:
     
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    Ah...but there are some options for the ladies. Kelsey is a HUGE favorite among the ladies. Just read some of the posts over at the FWP forums. Plus, there is Solaufein, though it is rather late in the game when you find him, making romance options occur later.

    As for Xan, read my post a little further up this thread. He's already back and ready to play :)
     
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    @Tal - The characters aren't there, I have looked and looked but I still couldn't find them.
     
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    I think what Taluntain was referring to is the entry titled "Extra Playable Characters v1.3" Here is the description:

    Some extra NPCs (mostly BG1 characters) you can summon into your game via the CLUA console. This package includes Alora, Branwen, Coran, Drizzt, Faldorn, Garrick, Jon Irenicus, Khalid, Kivan, Quayle, Saemon Havarian, Safana, Tiax, Xan and Xzar.
     
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    Hmm, I've tried that Xan mod, not very good I'd say. I mean, why would anyone say "..." if they were summoned to your Pocket Plane?
     
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    [​IMG] I'd probably say '...?!'

    but it depends on what I was doing at the time.

    I totally agree with the anomen thing btw, perhaps he should become more dexterous or something - or more evil - I actually changed his alignment so he wouldn't leave my party.
     
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    Hmm, that's an interesting idea. I might add that one to my to do list.

    Been done three times over.

    I was actually working on this, but scrapped the idea after my writers backed out. There is one in development by someone else, though.

    Never used her in BG1, so I'm not too familiar with her personality. She is with Coran in BG2, so we'd need some way to explain that. Maybe include with it a mod with Coran as well and have a love triangle (as was intended for H'D and Aerie)?

    Good idea.

    In development.

    I think someone was working on this, not sure if they scrapped it or not, though.

    You're talking as though its already in development. Tayja and I are still in the writing stage of it, but we'll get it out eventually.

    Hmm, maybe that should be included as a component in the Expanded Minsc mod.

    If I decide to include #9, then this will be in as well.

    Been done.

    Another scrapped idea, but I do have some of his romantic dialogues still. I'll send them out if someone else wants to take up the reins.

    Good idea here as well.
     
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