Multiplayer games: tell us what tactic you hate (PVP mostly but not only)

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I'm making this thread to tell you all who care how I hate hit and running in RTS-es. By this I don't mean cunning hit and run raids, surgical strikes and the like. I mean a guy who will change his walking direction 20 times and neither fight nor go to his base or creep (in RTS-es where you gain experience, for instance). This basically means he will engage your brain all the time but not in combat. In real life wars and battles, I suppose it would happen, although not so often as in RTS-es like Warcraft 3. I hate it and I consider it griefing because habitually being always on the run and in retreat is not how games are supposed to be played.

Not like I've done it myself, but I've heard about and seen some of the stats frenzy in multiplayer RPG-es. Not the purpose of it, either. Same for exaggerated "roleplaying" - e.g. they insist on speaking 19th century English, which is nonsense because 1) to mediaeval people their English didn't sound old but modern, 2) it's neither ours nor theirs per se (morphologically, syntactically etc), so what point?

What else, what else. I mostly play RTS-es for multiplayer, if not only, and those are very specific. Perhaps hacking, AI abuse and bug exploits are common to all games. I hate that. I don't like it when players rest (almost) solely on bug-like things, such as balance issues, for their tactics, either. And I really hate pretending to be a newbie in ranking games and stealing ladder points from people that way.

What is it you hate?

 

What do I hate?

BEGGERS. Not new-to-the-game players who don't know any better, but the one's with experience in playing who stand in a town square or (God forbid) follow other gamers around saying:

Plz give me $$$$
I jus dyed. Need money
Plz plz plz plz plz plz

I don't mind helping out people when I can, either, but damn, that's gold *I* did actual *work* to get! And heaven help you if you tell them no. Now they *will* follow you around, using game emotes to guilt you. Countless times I've used a teleport spell to get away or changed game servers.

As chev mentioned, the use of hacking. In RuneScape, a lot of people use macros to get high levels in skills that are otherwise boring to do yourself (mining, woodcutting, fishing). I do get some satisfaction when a nasty random event happens (attacking troll while fishing, angry dryad while woodcutting) and the stupid hacker is getting pounded to death, just standing there letting the macro do his work instead of controlling the action himself.

 

Beggers, as kuemper said, are a plague in many servers, and Shouters. God, I hate shouters.

I also despise "Party lovers", especially in Action servers.

Sometimes I just want to play solo in a NWN server. I don't mind when someone sends a "Join Party" invitation, if they don't insist when I decline (I normally add a polite "Playing solo today, sorry"). But some people just have the need to have you in their party, so that you won't eat up their precious XP, I guess. Tough luck, I say.

This particular idiot sent me ten (10!) party invitations before I chose to ignore him. Then, he kept asking "Y u not join?", even after I replied with the solo thing. After that, I didn't care and simply closed the messages window.

EDIT: ach, wrong forum for this game, I guess...

 

Yeah, Warcraft 3 has them less than before or maybe I don't meet them so often now, but it's not like I play a lot of random team games. Their whole strategies are built around getting gold or lumber from other players.

 

Why not? It sounds like a good idea that one player dedicated to harvesting lumber, another gold, and so on. That's what people do in real life too.

 

Not really. Everyone's on his own in many, many cases throughout the game, or at least limited to receiving help from one ally out of two or more, so it's not so simple. Besides those people don't mean any sort of exchange. Most of them expect you to give them resources so they can tech fast and show off some supposed pwnage with advanced units... which is generally nonsense because begging is sooo nooby that you can't really entrust even gryphon massing to such players. It's not Age of Empires 2 where there were 4 types of resources (food coming in three ways) and sometimes exchange could be profitable. Of course, nothing wrong asking if someone could spare some lumber for gold or gold for lumber or even if anyone has resources to spare. Sometimes one player needs it while another one spends nothing and piles it. Anyway, it generally pays to spend most of your gold as it comes or the enemy will and he will overcome you with a superior force. Asking resources at early stages where everyone's striving to advance is not only noobish, it's downright rude. Except maybe when you can see he's doing something useful and sparing him some cash now would benefit all the team and potentially win the game. But in those cases you generally now what's going on. It just sucks when players build their strategy around begging. One of my random teammmates, a German, put it nicely: "Bin kein Sozialamt." (I'm no social service.)

 

For general FPS I hate people who can only do good with a certain gun or possibly 2 weapons.

For more tactical FPS(counter-strike/source) I hate people who can only do the same thing every round...i.e. one guy AWP's mid the whole game on de_dust2, or camps ramp/pit the whole game.

Also people who just try to ruin the games...clans like myg0t, and people who hack in general.

RTS absolutely hated it in Age of Empires 2 when people would make no attempt whatsoever at an offense on maps like Herofest(custom scenario) and hated people who just used one unit in Random Map games(scorp whores anyone?)

 

@chevalier I sometimes give wood to a nightelf it allow's him to rush hunters faster for example , or if he is harassed by a blademaster(I have seen players who can handle this with no problems but it is rare ).

 

About beggars... agreed with kuemper but also I don't like brand new players that beg for help. Runescape even had a manditory tutorial at the beginning to introduce you to skills and such. If they had the patience to pass that, they should have figured out how to navigate around and explore and find quests to do. Doing just about anything in that game is more productive that asking for help.

 

I ran into one person the other day who needed help with a quest. I'd done it, so I agreed to help. I told him how to get a map piece; how to get there, who to kill, etc. Then he asks me to show him how. I explained that if I did it, he would not get the map piece to finish the quest (it is untradeable and only you see it when you drop it on the ground).

I don't know if this happens in other games, but in RuneScape, you can follow other players. Essentially, get a taxi ride for free. You don't have to do anything, the person you latched onto does all the clicking and keyboard work.

 

Level 90 players on Phantasy Star Online who are still begging for equipment (at level 90 you're high enough to access Ultimate difficulty).

People who complain that you "ninja'd" their MP restoring potion. Especially when you're the one playing a magic user and they're whinging over one of the lower end potions.

 

I HATE BACKSTABBERS!!!!! this applies to every single multiplayer game that has an allied function. I had my fair share of backstabbers in starcraft for example, there was one particularly bad case where he basically customized a map just for bsing. there was an elevated base on the top right so while we (normal guys) were killing off the comps he lifted his buildings up there, he made an almost indestructible fortress and it took a whole of 1 hour to kill him... i was so pissed after that

 

In L2, since everywhere, besides walled cities, was a "PvP" zone, people who'd hit you while you where fighting a monster. Now the theory goes that since if you only wack someone a couple of times you only go purple (instead of becoming red if you kill someone who doesn't fight back) and it increases the chances that the other player dies to the monster. Now in L2, eveytime you die you have a chance of dropping some of your equipment which is very, very expensive and anyone near by can pick it up and keep it so some players rather then working for money would rather try to indirectly kill other players and then take any gear that drops.

 

In World of warcraft, they have 3 so called battlegrounds which are some pvp areas where you playe team vs team. in the capture the flag one. caleld Warsong gulch you can take the flag to your graveyard and stay defended by your 9 teammembers who also resurrect there. it makes it near impossible for the opposite team to retake the flag but at the same time, the team doing the socalled GY defend cant attack. so you get an unending stalemate, that can make that bg last forever.

 

In Counter-Strike I hate when the offensive team camps on public servers and the defensive team out of sheer boredom goes looking for them and gets slaughtered since almost all maps have better defensive positions for the attacking team than the defending team.

 

I had to put it in quotes because for some reason it said I was using HTML tags; the parenthesis.

EDIT: Ty BTA, and sorry for the wide post, I had made it and left without checking the results.

[ June 28, 2006, 05:41: Message edited by: Eldular ]

 

I hate senior players with god complexes in multiplayer. For instance, I was playing some new map in CS, dont remember the name at the moment. There were a couple of guys who played that map a lot whereas there were three or four other guys apart from me who had never played the map before.

I was trying to get to grips with the map, and they were really laying it on calling me a noob and making derogatory comments about my playing skills, only because I dunno their new map by heart. If they were to play me in a standard map, I would have kicked their butt so hard...but because of a slight difficulty in that particular game, they were really abusive.

I know this happens a lot, especially in some other games like Quake and Unreal Tournament as well...and well, I hate that.

 

Yup, its really annoying. Like your CS skills were the measure of manliness. Another thing I hate are those whining about 'luck'. Sure, its a computer game, its very much about luck, but there's no reason to get pissed about it. O__o

 

Yeah, some people get way too emotional when playing a game, mainly online FPS.

 

lol yea... I've played against some people that could compete FPS Doug for taking the game too serious. For those of you who don't know who/what i'm talking about.

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