Mage Party?

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Never have i even tried this, but im gunna now, im gunna make an all mage party based on using NPC's

its gunna be my main as a mage (full mage) i didnt wanna go sorcerer because that to easy.
ok and the npcs im gunna use are
Viconia, Aerie, Nalia, Edwin, Imoen... but until i get Imoen its gunna be a 5 person party...

Im wondering has anyone else tried this?
I play on insane, which i have problems even with 3 fighter types, im prolly gunna get vaked with all mages...

 

I thought of doing something similar but went for non-magic users instead. I guess it'll be very tough at the start but you should be ok provided you make good use of summoning spells for cannon fodder and to give you some time.

Also make use of the stoneskin and ironskin spells. These are better than things like blur or mirror as they last for such a long time. That is, you can cast them at the beginning of the day and then you are protected if you get ambushed and don't waste time casting a protection spell. Later in the game I guess it'll get quite easy apart from anything that is magic resistant (mind flayers??).

Also, if you have Viconia, she can become quite useful in melee if you give her some of the strength stuff or Crom Faeyr. Being a cleric she can wear good armour and shields and the strength bonuses give her an ok thaco. She and Jaheira were my main 'hold the line' tanks in my all-female party.

PS you will probably get a load of posts telling you that it can't be done and you must have some tanks, etc. Just remember it can always be done, it'll just be very tricky at times and require some original tactics. Also people solo with sorcerers so it must be possible.

 

I never tried this either but I played a pretty magic heavy party cosisting of Aerie, Jaheira and Imoen + my fighter-mage, Minsc and Viconia.

So why not play this way - it is at least very challenging and I really think it *is* in fact possible. You just need some nice weapons for special opponents like golems (sling of Everard) but these can be used by mages.

I´d also recommend to use Viconia for she´s an excellent Cleric with her wis-18 and a druid (maybe Cernd) for the insect plague spells - I found them really useful. He can also shapeshift to a greater werewolf later IIRC - then he will be a good tank for he hits hard and regenerates fast.

 

just create your own party with 6 specialist mages instead of those npc's, they suck one by one.

 

May I poing out that that isn't an all mage party Don't smack me as I'm sure you know this, but don't advertise it if it isn't true. I'd sub a fighter D Mage for Viconia anyway. Arrie should be enough cleric for the party if used properly, and a fighter D mage could be all the tank you need. And before anyone says a fighter D mage doesn't belong in an all mage party, consider that 4 of the other characters aren't strictly mages either. So there

 

Im not looking to sub Viconia, That would only make the game easier, and if you couldnt tell thats the last thing i wanted to so, so would making a man made party, it would ruin the challenge the game gives in each of the npcs.

 

Of course this is a good party! You can solo as a mage, so why not with a party full of spell casters?

 

Well obviously it would be harder than soloing. In the beginning it would be easier, but towards the middle and later parts of the game, you would find that you didn't have many of the more powerful spells, whereas as a solo mage you would have a number of lvl 8 spells, etc, and cast at a higher level, making them, and other spells, more powerful.

 

I have never solo'ed with Insane on, and im not sure i would live long if i did, even with a monk already at level 20.

 

Yeah, I don't get that. Viconia isn't even part-way a mage. Whereas Jan is an illusionist-thief, so Jan would be a more logical choice than Vic for an all mage party.

 

well tell me, would you rather have your romance with a whiney little girl or a experienced woman?

 

Playing a mage party become boring after some time. Cast-Sleep-Cast-Sleep.... a nightmare!

 

Maybe you can start a MP and create 2 characters by yourself. For without Imoen, you realy need a thief/mage and a fighter/mage can also be very worthful Or create a pure mage (main) and one fighter/thief/mage.. Then you can copy the file to the single player map and play with 2 chars.

 

its not as bad as it sounds, i have each mage specialize in something, 2 of em are all summoners (edwin, nalia) Aerie and my main have attacking magic, VIconia and also aerie heal, and now that i have Imoen im gunna give her all my anti protection spells, (until just recently Nalia did that).
It works out good for all occasions

[This message has been edited by IronEagle (edited May 10, 2001).]

 

This all mage party ....

do you use summoned creatures to do all of your fighting?

how do you deal with traps?

 

for the most part summons do my bidding for me, and what they cant do, stone skin can cover, and Nalia, and Imoen can both disarm traps, cuz they are both mage/thief

[This message has been edited by IronEagle (edited May 10, 2001).]

 

this seems like an interesting idea, i think i'll try it some time.

but i will probably create five of the characters by myself and leave the last slot for an npc.

P.S. does reduce resistance work on mind flayers? i know it is the best way to beat andaminite(sp) golems.(+magic missles)
(hmmmm... 4 sorcerers=goodbye bad guys)

 

i have managed to almost complete the game with a solo bard.............his name was sir Singalot and i did pretty well until i got to the last chapter.

If i can manage that then you should have no problem with the all mage party

 

IMO wizards can do everything. An all mage party might possibly be too easy for all the wonderfully talented people here (myself not included, I shy away from magic as it's too complicated, and actually requires foresight and planning, and I am rubbish at the game)

 

Make one mage very powerfulgirlde that increases your strength to 19, 20 or 21, low ac and a good Dex + the best staff/firetooth. When you need a fighter to slash some enemies to toast, you can use Tenser Transformation wich transforms the mage into a very good fighter, can be a very good spell for the mage then.