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Getting tough & the silent military dissent against the war in Iraq

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Ragusa, Sep 14, 2004.

  1. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

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    What always struck me is the predictability that when senior US officers retires, he starts to speak out against the conduct of the GWOT. They speak out silent but pointed, usually via intermediaries.

    Just a few recent examples:
    Gen. Ex-US Commander in Chief, Tommy Franks to Senator Bob Graham on the nonsense of attacking Iraq.
    Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, USMC on the Marine attack on Falluja which he had to conduct though he opposed it.
    It seems to be the boneheaded view, frequently reiterated by Dick Cheney for example, that US must not show weakness and that display of weakness invites terror attack, that led the civil leadership to these decisions.
    But that doesn't work in fighting an insurgency. The politicos decide on actions that won't work, and the military sees it - but salutes and goes to a mission they know is wrong, even counter-productive.

    The results? Just take a look at this article: News Analysis: Get-tough tactics in Iraq
    I like this particular line by Gen. Zinni, ex commander of US Central Command:
    Under Rumsfeld and the neocon crew the doors are closed. Gen. Shinseki, in the above spirit, spoke out against the Iraq war planning, especially the insufficient number of troops to be sent to Iraq, and was sacked.
    He, a general, was according to neocon Richard Perle not competent to make such a statement - but he and Wolfowitz - who have never seved a day in uniform, are. Civilians out-generaling the generals. Speak about a receipe for disaster.
     
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