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Druids and Clerics

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Parvini, Apr 26, 2001.

  1. Parvini Gems: 10/31
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    [​IMG] Are some spells exclusively Druid and others exclusively Cleric?? What are these spells? Druids are good at summoning elementals I seem to remember from my Cernd days.
     
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    yes there spells that can only be used by druids and others that can only be used by cleric. And isn't it in th manual which spells can be used by them?
     
  3. antoine Guest

    sorry I looked it up and it is not in the manual, then you just have to know by experience

    [This message has been edited by antoine (edited April 26, 2001).]
     
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    Insect plague or swarm or something is a brilliant druid spell that's not available to clerics. If it involves animals etc it's usually druidic rather than cleric....(I think.)
     
  5. Earl Grey

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    Here is what I found out by testing:

    * Only Druids get these spells *
    1:
    Entangle

    2:
    Charm Person or Mammal
    Goodberry

    3:
    Call Lightning
    Hold Animal
    Summon Insects

    4:
    Call Woodland Beings

    5:
    Insect Plague
    Iron Skin
    Pixie Dust

    6:
    Conjure Fire Elemental
    Dolorous Decay
    Fire Seeds

    7:
    Conjure Earth Elemental
    Creeping Doom
    Nature's Beauty


    . . . . . . . . . . . .

    * Only Clerics get these spells *
    1:
    Command
    Magic Stone
    Protection from Evil
    Remove Fear
    Sanctuary

    2:
    Aid
    Chant
    Draw Upon Holy Might
    Hold Person
    Silence 15'
    Spiritual Hammer

    3:
    Animate Dead
    Glyph of Warding
    Holy Smite
    Remove Curse
    Remove Paralysis
    Unholy Blight

    4:
    Free Action
    Holy Power
    Lesser Restoration
    Protection from Evil 10' radius

    5:
    Champion's Strength
    Flame Strike
    Greater Command
    Raise Dead (Jaheira has Harper's Call instead)
    Repulse Undead
    Righteous Magic
    Slay Living

    6:
    Aerial Servant
    Blade Barrier
    Bolt of Glory
    False Dawn
    Sol's Searing Orb

    7:
    Finger of Death
    Gate
    Greater Restoration
    Holy Word/Unholy Word (Depends on alignment)
    Resurrection
    Sunray
    Symbol of Death
    Symbol of Fear
    Symbol of Stun

    It seems like the druids get scr*wed over good in the spell department...

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    Thankee... Earl Gray
     
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    [​IMG] It seems that none of the participants in this discussion have played AD&D with pencil and paper.
    For those of you that have played AD&D pnp, you might remember that priest spells normally are categorized by sphere; just like wizard spells are categorized by school. For some reason that I am unaware of, this has been left out of the BG2 manual. If you read the AD&D Players Handbook (the core rules of AD&D) you will see that druids has access to the spheres (this is taken from my memory) of plant, animal, elemental, healing etc., while cleric has combat, protection, healing, elemental (minor == up to 3rd level), creation, sun (/light?), astral etc.

    There are many more spheres than wizard schools, and unlike schools, they are not balanced at all. This means that there might very well be very narrow spheres that only contain a few spells. This also means that it is possible for a DM to add entire new spheres without distrupting the whole spell-system.

    Hope this helped

    [This message has been edited by tunheim (edited April 27, 2001).]
     
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    [​IMG] Thankee thun... there are if you look in the game "Spheres" in the priest spells
     
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    Earl Grey druids only get screwed cause they can't reach the levels of Clerics, if they were reaching higher levels Bio would hasve included more spells but as they only reach level 14 and therefore can only cast one level 7 spell what is the point including so many spells you can't use. Plus some of those druid spells such as nature's beauty and crepping doom are awweful powerful. Ido however think that Bio should partion things better, Clerics getting Earthquake isn't that related to nature and hence druids should obtain it

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    [​IMG] You say only Druids get the spell entangle, but my fighter/cleric has it in BG2. Could it be because he had the spell memorized when I imported him from BG1?
     
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    wich in ur opinions is better in all aspects druid or cleric?
     
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    Jaheira has her own personal spell as well doesn't she? Harper's something or other. Bring back one party member to life, and something like -5 Hps to the caster. Heh - In the aftermath of the battle with the shadow dragon, Jaheria and another had died, so I restored jaheira, then used that spell, but I had forgotten that it take life of, and Jaheira died after using it :(.
     
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    druids cant get raise dead?
     
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    Druids rule!!!
     
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    [​IMG] No, only Clerics get Raise Dead, but Jaheira is special and gets "Harper's Call" which is the same as Raise Dead.
     
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    How does it work with the spells they get?
    I mean, if they go up in level, does the computer choose a couple of spells randomly that will then get in their possesion?
     
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    druids usually get "nature" related spells
     
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    is that why they can only wear leather armor? cos they are naturists?
     
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    yup...
    but how come jaheira can wear better armour and still cast her spells?
     
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    Because she is a Multi-classed with a fighter. This allows her to use all armors. BUt is still restricted to the druid weapon range, althougth from the fighter she can use the weapon feat proficiencies(sp)
     
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