Cheese in BG2

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Go on and post here what you consider to be cheesy in BG2!


Here are a couple of my pet peeves:

- Thieves Set Traps ability
Let me just rest up and set a few more traps and that dragon is history.

- Shield of Balduran (and Cloak of Mirroring)
I'll just stand here and you kill yourselves, ok?

- Quivering Palm
No man, magic resistance doesn't help cause it's not a spell. Look! I place my hand on the dragon like this and he just dies. See?

 

lol, no one forces you to use this items or abilities, I don´t use them. It´s totally up to you and your playing style. As long as they enjoy doing it it´s all right. for BG-1/ 2 is a *game* and not a philosophy

Btw, be aware this could turn into a roleplayer-powergamer discussion fast and deadly ...

[This message has been edited by Ragusa (edited April 21, 2001).]

 

Me thought's that thief is more likely to fail the trap and if he/she does set it, I consider it a gift of gods!
And reloading each time ye failed (lost a character/ failed a deathblow with the Vorpal Sword) be just like cheating

Cloak Of mirroring only protects ye from damage spells - well, beholders die, and it seems to be it for the nastiest things, like hold/stun/cloudkill(not suren' o' that)/wail of banshee still send ye to the Abyss

Quivering Palm - agreed, bad ability be it

 

the set traps ability is fine. The unrealistic aspect comes from resting in dungeons and dragons letting you prepare in the room. there's nothing wrong with running away from a horde of umberhulks then setting a few snares for when they come after you.

 

I agree Ironbeard, setting traps as part of an ambush for example in a doorway with some skeletons behind to block the enemy onslaught is a valid tactic.
Just send someone in to draw fire and then run back again quickly to lead the enemies following you into the traps and your parties archer fire.

BUT indeed resting in a dragons lair, placing traps, sleep, place more traps, sleep again ... for an easy dragon kill *is* stupid. However, as long as people enjoy doing so ...

 

I was trying to rattle the cage a bit.

True, setting traps do not have to be cheesy. It's like with Cloudkill, it can be cheesy if you exploit it in conjunction with the games shortcomings.
(Closing the door and the monsters stand and die, etc)

 

Was the set traps ability really THAT good? bec. I went through the whole game not using that ability once... did I really miss out on something big?

 

Nothing big but just something handy, however, there are lot´s of alternatives.

 

Dare to be different, or (stupid). I had Nalia cast Vampiric Touch on a Dragon (snuck up from behind while the dragon fought my fighters and cast the spell) It worked! 30 HP, not bad. This was of course after Aerie cast Lower Resistance.

 

Set traps is a great ability and one that I also didn't use 1st time through. With 3 traps set and a few enemies around I've hit them for way over 100 points of damage on a few occasions.

I must admit though that I'm not too sure that hitting all enemies with one trap is too realistic. Also enemies don't have to be that close to set them off.

 

i think that Set traps is okay as long as it used right

i think it's good if someone has bothered to Hide in the Shadows and check what's ahead of them, set a few traps, and lured his enemies into a death trap. But using them on Dragons is another thing...

and i use Cloudkill regularly, but not straight into the fog of war when i don't have to worry. I use it on large groups of enemies, like it is actually meant for. Geeze!

 

Brie, cheddar, swiss, mozarella, parmesan, ementhal...

 

Catti-brie?

 

Dean: I like to cast cloud kill in the fog of war area in front of me if there are enemies close together In Mae'var's guild I cast 3 cloudkills and left them there. After a while I cast 2 fireballs When I went in to pick up the pieces everyone was already dead
-When a trick works, it's no longer cheap-

 

What a waste, tsstsss <shakehead> *I´d* save that spell for dangerous enemies like dragons ... and irritating ones like orc/ kobold/ goblin herds ...

[This message has been edited by Ragusa (edited April 24, 2001).]

 

I could finish the game without using traps.
They are very useful, but they make the killing more easier. Cloudkill is fine, works wonders in Nalia's keep against the Umber Hulks. It isn't a cheat that time casting it into the fog of war, because you can have information about the Umber Hulks from the conversation of Nalia and Daelson.

 

Hmmmmmmmm - I don´t quite think so, you can only attack an enemy fair when you´ve at least seen him/ it with your own eyes ... THAT´S WHAT THIEVES AND RANGERS ARE THERE FOR! Or this magic eye spell ... unless you do so ... call it whatever you like ... <grumbles ito his nonexistent beard>

 

That's what I meant Rag, after I scout the front with the ring of invisibility

 

Yep, there are times when I tell my thief:
I have a bad feeling about the area just ahead. Do you think you can hide and scout it out for us?

That thief has started to trust my instincts (yeah, right!) by now...

Oh, the benefits of having played the game before.