Charisma and Turning Undead

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I dare to ask this question only with the following statement in my mind: "Stupid questions are the ones that stay unasked".

What is the effect of Charisma on Turn Undead?

I know that you can Turn Undead a number of times per day equal to 3+Charisma modifier. So with my 16 Charisma cleric I can use the ability 6 times per day.
But does charisma also count for Turning Power? Turning or disintegrating more HD of undead? All I read was that I have a turning level of 2 (equal to my cleric-level or paladin-level min 2, if I was one). I can't find anything in the manual either and I doubt it works exactly the same as in a PnP 3.5 game...

Thanks.

 

The spell's description says "The higher the cleric's level and charisma are, the greater his or her chance of success is" so I guess that higher charisma makes your turn undead stronger but honestly I don't think I've ever even used Turn Undead once in my game time.

 

Oh, good! But where did you read that? In the manual? If so, what page?

And I usually turn undead as often as I can. Are there many undead to turn in the game btw? I can't remember I found any when I first played IWD2.

 

There are not that many earth shattering dangerous undead in the game - although there are some points where enemy mages will start summoning Greater Drowned Dead if you let them.

 

Well, there are pretty nasty Apocalyptic Boneguards in the latter stages of the game -- truly the only undead who will pose any sort of significant threat to a decent party.

But aside from that, the practical uses of Turn Undead are pretty scarce (unless you're evil).

According to the 3rd Edition rules, whenever you use Turn Undead, you roll 2D6 and add your charisma bonus and check the tables to see what HD of Undead you may turn. (If the Cleric's level is at least twice the undead's, he destroys/rebukes it instead).

0 and -; Cleric's Level -4
1-3; Cleric's Level -3
4-6; Cleric's Level -2
7-9; Cleric's Level -1
10-12; Cleric's Level
13-15; Cleric's Level +1
16-18; Cleric's Level +2
19-21; Cleric's Level +3
22 and +; Cleric's Level +4

Whether they implemented it that way in IWD2 or not is another thing, however.

 

Mh... Thanks.

It seems that my Morninglord has little use of his 16 Charisma. Whether they use the rules or not, there are too few undead (or "the living impaired" - nice way to put it, HB ) to make it worth the stats and feats.
Still, the Morninglord makes a good cleric. The 2 extra HD turned on his turn might become useful, but it is no need to make him a true undead-basher (from a powergaming view)

Many thanks for making this clear. Well... the use of turning-rules are still vague, but at least I know there are too few undead to be turned.

 

I got it from the information screen in-game (Character Sheet -> Information -> Classes -> Cleric)

 

Heh! I must have read that a 100 times, but forgot what it said, because it was not exactly the information I was looking for.
When I am looking for the exact rules, I tend to somehow not see other useful info.

 

In my kind of game,there´s only one place when Turn Undead comes in handy: the dwarven caves just before the black raven monastery.
There´s a painless soul trapped in the iron maiden, and if you kill him, the hole dwarf camp turns on you.
I evade this chamber too many times tills someone told me "try turn undead" and, Voila! the stupid soul turns "speakable" and give me XPs.
For the normal tretment of undeads, I prefers the weapons that obliterate them(kick their sorry asses back to the grave) or the exorcism like spells.
But I do miss the BG series type of turn undead( you can destroy a liche or a vampire at high levels).Sadly, in IWD2 the turning cappability seems to be a joke compared to the 2E rules.