BGT or BG1TUTU?

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I'd like to try bg1 with bg2 engine. So should I install bgt or bg1tutu? Which is better, and why?
Thanks.

 

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I think it's much a question of taste...

 

I've never use BGT, but I do use Easy Tutu. I'd quite happily recommend the latter.

I haven't come across any bugs yet (not even the Beregost one) while using it. If you go this path, use Easy Tutu rather than the original Tutu- there is continuing support for it and it is much simpler to install.

 

Which one is better depends a lot on what you're expecting from the game. Tutu is a more faithful conversion and also has a very good mod that allows to you to assign character kits to all NPCs. On the other hand and in my own humble personal opinion, I disagree with most of the weapon proficiencies of some NPCs. It's not that you can't edit with ShadowKeeper, though. The transition from Tutu to BG2 is identical to the one from BG1. You will have to start a new game in BG2 and import your character from your final save.

By the way, I definitely recommend EasyTutu over Tutu4 (or Tutu6 beta). It has a much more friendly installing process and a lot of little tweaks and bugfixes.

BGT is a lot of fun if you want (near to) flawless continuity to your game. The transition from BG1 to BG2 will involve no starting new game or reimporting your character. The game will flow a lot like BG2 goes into ToB and your NPCs - assuming they were available for joining in BG2 as well - will be conditionally imported. This also means that any changes you made to them (raising a stat by using a tome, for example) will be carried over to BG2.

Also, BGT is compatible with a lot of mega-modifications like The Darkest Day and Dark Side Of The Sword Coast. The former seems to be popular because it brings back a lot of NPCs like Yeslick, Xzar and Kivan. From what I've read, having it on your BGT installation will make you able to take them all the way to ToB.

Anyway, it all comes down to your personal preferences. Tutu is all about playing good old BG1 without missing all the great improvements of game mechanics and engine that BG2 had. BGT is the different approach of turning it all into one huge, game, with all the minor adaptations that it requires.

My advice is to try both. I recently played a Tutu game and had a lot of fun. Now I'm trying out BGT, and so far I really like it.

 

i m not sure i got this right

i installed bg1+ totsc + bg2soa + tob and then applied easytutu mod (tob version), normally once i finish the 1st opus i ll get access to soa without discontinuity wont i ?

 

In that case you get the same continuity you would get by playing regular BG1 and then importing your character. Except, of course, for your character statistics. Since it's technically already a BG2 char, you don't get to reallocate your proficiencies or rechoose your spells.

Other than that, it's regular BG2. Minsc and Jaheira are alive and in the dungeon with you, and so on...

 

ok thanks

im rediscovering bg1 with this mod, its great stuff really

 

I'm with Hethan here. Try them both and see which you like. Personally, I like BGT because of the continuity. I'm running BGT with both expansions installed and The Darkest Day Mega-mod plus the Ease-of-Use pack.

I love it! Tutu sounds great but I've never got the damned thing to work properly. Always had an error somewhere or a corrupted file. Never the same thing twice. Weird.

If you do play TDD, though, don't bother with the new kits. The old kits are much better balanced and aren't buggy or broken.

 

Yeah, Tutu seems to have an issue involving Beregost that is beyond the workteam's power to solve. However, it also happens in BGT, so, you can blame Black Isle if you want to!

Thing is, whenever you get in or out or save your game inside Beregost, there is a chance your save will be corrupted and the game will crash everytime you leave or enter the city. However, it's not too hard to avoid it. All you have to do is, every time you are about to travel to Beregost, save your game. Auto Save does not count. When in Beregost, save again (call this one something like "Beregost-Save-In"). Leave Beregost. Go back. If the game is still running, reload your Beregost-Save-In and move on with your game. Also, avoid saving inside Beregost.

Sounds boring, but it isn't, really. To me, it's but a small hassle that it's compensated by all the advantadges of playing BG1 on the BG2 engine.

 

BGT has its bugs. I've read lists pages long describing what to do and not do to avoid the worst of them. But the only problems I've had is in recruiting NPCs.

Like this. Certain NPC, such as Xar, can be recruited as normal. But when reforming the party, I get this weird text response. It's a spell desription(!) as one of my dialogue options.

All in all, my mods are more stable that what I've read about. So, I won't complain!

 

the weird thing about tutu is that you encounter groups of creatures throughout the landscape where you should only face one or none in original bg1

this makes soloing extremely tough

 

^That's been addressed in more recent versions of EasyTutu.

 

its alright my lvl 3 monk is starting to get the hang of it: he shoots darts at hobgoblins and then scrams

 

Thanks every one. I think I may try bgt first, it sounds like more interesting to me.

 

I wish BGT wasnt a 660 MB download, my university quota is only about 420MB over 2 weeks. But I might bust my quota on one day just for that, might be worth it.

Are there any other differences other than continuity? I dont really mind importing my characters, 5 minutes work after 50 hours gameplay isnt much. Which is more stable?

 

IMHO EasyTutu i way better than BGT. But I think you can't import chars afterward. Others may correct me.
Still I would go for EasyTutu...

 

Once you've finished EasyTutu, you can import your character into regular BG2.

I would rehash my comments on BGT's "continuity", but I'd hate to be accused of pimping, bias, or an inflated sense of self importance.

 

Oh my, SimDing0, you sound almost bitter. Been accused at bit much lately?

 

Not bitter. Bored.

 

Aside from continuity, most differences are two fold. (1) purely cosmetic and (2) the list of additional mods you can install.

I was attracted to the idea of The Big Picture, so I went with BGT.