Balduran's ship strategies

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I finally encountered a problem (by my own fault by the way) while playing bg1tutu. I am currently with my party on the werewolf island and more specifically in balduran's ship. Killed all the werewolfs except for the greater werewolf upstairs.

Problem: I have to kill the greater werewolf to escape the island.

Problem II: my part consists of myself a figher/druid, imoen, minsc, dynaheir, viccy and xan. I myself can't use the bastard sword vs shapeshifters or the sword of balduran. Minsc can't use those swords either because I made him a beastmaster (can't use metal weapons), needless to say the rest can't use those weapons either.

Problem III: I can't inflict enough damage with just my dagger of balduran and my magic, that stupid thing regenerates way way way to quick.

I can stun him btw but it doesn't really help.

Are there any other weapons I can use against it besides the ones I mentioned and what strategies can I use for killing him quick?

 

Oh my, that is a problem. IIRC, the greater werewolves required a +2 or better weapon to hit (or a silver weapon).

There are a few +2 weapons in the game that should be available - isn't there a +3 quarterstaff? That would be your best bet - anyone can use that. There's a +2 scimitar in Durlag's Keep. The poison dagger should work - and it also does a lot of damage to boot. Xan has the +3 moonblade, but you better protect him with mirror image and hope if you're putting him in the front line...

Did you bring any +2 arrows with you? Minsc and Imoen can use bows. If you brought any +2 bullets with you Viccy can use those.

If you didn't bring any of those items with you, you're SOL.

 

Regular werewolves and wolfweres only require magical or silver weapons. IIRC Greater Wolfweres and Loup Garous need +3 weapons; the only +3 weapons I can think of (in addition to the ones you already mentioned) is the +3 two-handed sword in Durlag's Tower and the +3 Cursed Berserking Sword from Brage. The Staff of Striking might be able to hit them as well.

 

Well I have the quarterstaff +3 and drizzt's scimitar +3 (stolen), I have a lot of +2 bullets and arrows but none of them work. Everytime I get a weapon ineffective remark.

Anyway to cluaconsole me out of there if things get that ugly?

 

You could always try CTRL-Y.

 

That makes no sense. I thought +2 were required to hit, but +3 should always work. There aren't any melee weapons above +3 enchantment in the game, so if they don't work, I don't know what will. I suppose you can't run to the chest, open it and grab the gold sword inside?

 

I think the problem has to do with the outdated 'silver' item flag. In BG1, this tag was used to designate weapons that could hurt lycanthropes. I'm not sure how the BG2 engine is interpreting it; I suspect it's the same problem that gives Anath (the BG2 Loup Garou in the Umar Hills) her strange weapon immunities.

I'll try to look into this a bit more.

 

I already have the sword, but problem is my fighter/druid can's use it. So can't minsc because I made him a beast master.

I already killed the other wolves, that mother****er is the only one left.

I appreciate the effort camdawg, thanks.

 

Yep, it's the silver flag that causing problems. The greater wolfwere has immunities to non-magical, non-silver weapons. The only weapons I can find in BG that that are flagged as silver are the Silver Dagger, Balduran's Sword, the Bastard Sword +1/+3 vs Shapeshifters, and Flame Tongue +1. He has no magic resistance, but only takes 50% damage from acid, fire, etc.

With all your spellcasters, I'd try hasting your Fighter/Druid, then start chucking spells at him. If Imoen can lay traps, try to lure him down the stairs (he should follow with BG2's engine) into some traps. If all else fails, use Chris's solution: CTRL-Y.

I can also confirm this is the same immunity that causes Anath to be well-nigh invincible in BG2.

[ November 14, 2003, 06:43: Message edited by: CamDawg ]

 

Thanks Camdawg I'll try that strategy with the traps and haste, hope it works!

 

Try priest spell Flame blade combined with draw upon holy might and strength. Potions (especially strength, heroism and power) could also help your warriors a lot - even if you have just Silver Dagger.

 

Got em, 2 traps a critical hit with the dagger and 3 magic missiles (with a trigger) finally did the trick.

Thanks for the help people.

BTW the spell flameblade doesn't help either.

 

Yep, none of the magically-created weapons are considered silver as well.

Glad you finally got 'em Apeman!