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any ways to increase number of attacks with ranged weapons?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Coconut_Crab, Aug 13, 2005.

  1. Coconut_Crab Gems: 2/31
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    Hi, does anyone know a way to increase the number of attacks with ranged weapons, particularly the sling, without having to use the spell or high level ability?

    I only get 2 attacks/round, and it sucks, and I couldn't find something that has +1 to number of attacks like Belm scimitar but for the sling.

    Thank you in advance for the help.
     
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    Well...... I think I read somewhere that even if you hold Belm in another weaponslot and it is not in use, the extra attack is still applied to your number of attacks. I never tried this myself, however, and it could just be me spouting nonsense, but I seem to remember reading it somewhere.

    Sort of like having access to Ilbratha´s Mirror Image, even though it is not in use. But don´t take my word for it, as I said, maybe I just misunderstood something. Other than that, I don´t know any other way than through spells, potions and such... At least not for slings. Some bows have a bonus to number of attacks.
     
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    Holding Belm in another weaponslot won't give you any more attacks, but holding it in your offhand however does. Although you can't hold it in your offhand while wielding the sling though.

    I'm afraid you are stuck with the two attacks. Haste will increase it up to three attacks per round, and improved haste will double the number of attacks, and there are a few items out there that will confer improved haste upon you. A pair of Bracers in Brynnlaw IIRC, and a certain hard to get ring will also do the trick. I can't think of any item at all that will help you get more attacks with the sling permanently though. Sorry.

    But why would you use the sling when there are far better bows out there! The Tuigan bow will give you a load of attacks per round!
     
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    His character might be one which can't use bows - cleric, mage, druid.
     
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    Who are better off doing other stuff in any case :grin:
    My mages never hit anything with their slings anyways...
     
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    If you really want extra attacks with a sling, you'll probably have to be a fighter and have grand mastery in slings.
     
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    Thanks guys.

    I'm doomed!

    By the way, a sling is a 'ranged' weapon, right? Why the hell can my archer only put 2 proficiency stars in it?
     
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    You won't get extra attacks even if you get grand mastery without using a mod ("true grand mastery" from Baldurdash or ease of use).
    Slings are not so useless even if they are not the most popular option (shield for better AC and there is one -Everard's sling IIRC- which allows you to add you STR bonus to the damage).
    You should be able to put more than ++ in slings. :confused:
     
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think crossbows get extra attacks like other weapons when used by fighters. I'm not sure, but I remember a certain TOB NPC whom I gave grand mastery in crossbows and who had something like 5 or 6 attacks per round... and I don't think I'm making this up. Need to check.
     
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    Sling of seeking adds Strength bonus. Sling of Everard throws unlimited +5 bullets. But still, i would give your archer a bow over a sling, an archer won't need shields at all, he is supposed to be standing behind your tanks out of harms reach, making pincushions of all your enemies. What good is AC if nobody ever gets a swing at you? And i think the sheer number of arrows fired outweighs the damage you get with added strenght bonus.
    My level 14 Archer, currently wielding the Tuiganbow with grand mastery in shortbows has no less than 9/2 attacks per round. (However if i count the arrows fired per round, it's just four though, don't know why, and i've been wondering why for a while)

    However your archer should indeed be able to put more than two dots in it? Have you installed all the patches and the like?
     
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    @Thor: thanks I never remember their names, Tuigan bow is absolutely great but slings can be fun for a change. ;)

    @Ziad: what crossbow did this NPC use? Was it the crossbow of speed? (If I'm not mistaken a character with true grand mastery in bows get 5 attacks with a bow, since the crossbow of speed gives the same number of attacks as a bow it sounds rather logical).
     
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    Hey Thor:

    I am very sure (just checked) that the archer can only put ** in sling, and dart as well. Long bows, short bows, and crossbows he can put ***** and all melee weapon just *. I just don't understand. But do you think it is a bug?

    By the way, my archer's Called Shot's effect on enemies only lasts for 10 sec, the same duration as the duration of Called Shot itself. Is the effect on enemies supposed to be this short? (was kind of dissapointed)
     
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    Strange, started a new game myself to see if i got the same results, Coconut_Crab is right, two dots for Darts and Slings is maximum for an Archer. Though i can't see any reason why, they are both ranged weapons after all, Grand Mastery should be possible?

    Anyone more experienced have a logical answer to that? I'm blank :confused:
     
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    They may be ranged, but it's not archery. Crossbows count as archery because it's essentially a mounted bow, but everything else is just huckin' stuff. :grin:
     
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    Good one Felinoid! Though it's a hard blow for Coconut_Crab! :(
    Archers aren't so good after all...
     
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    Uaaaahh, my heart!
     
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    Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Veteran

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    Get a Cleric over here quick it's an emergency! :lol:

    EDIT:
    It's quite clear actually that you can't get the extra proficiency points in slings nevertheless you still benefit from the bonuses every three levels.

    [ August 17, 2005, 17:05: Message edited by: Caradhras ]
     
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