Aerie and Viconia can't walk

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I've got an odd bug, and no, these wimpy women are not encumbered. I had Aerie in the party, and all was fine. Then I saved Viconia in the government district and let her join the party. As soon as Vicci joined, both she and Aerie became worthless. They can't walk more than a step without stopping, they can't pick up items effectively, and they can't do anything else useful. It's worse than dragging around corpses--at least if they were dead I could leave party required areas. As it is, the game is unplayable. Any idea what might be wrong, or how to fix it?

[ March 08, 2003, 23:42: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

Hmm, that could be it. I don't have any improved romances running, but I do have the multiple romance hack going. It has never been a problem with Aerie and Jaheira (who, by the way, I think is the most evil of the lot, by her actions -- she practically tries to take a date to her husband's funeral!). I also have the flirt pack installed. Maybe the script can't figure out which one to let talk to me? So much for "compatible" hacks...

 

On the off topic bit: Granted moving on, in and of itself, is not evil. But Jaheira moves on so quickly that I really have to wonder about her. In under a week, she is making eyes at the male protagonist to the degree that what's-his-face (the merchant with the locket) can even see it. To me, she looks totally unstable, evil, or relatively unphased by Khalid's death. She is definitely a woman with some serious issues. Best case scenario, she's rebounding hard. Any scenario makes me want to avoid her. I'd be crushed if I knew that my wife cared so little for me that a few days after finding my mutilated body on a lab table she was on the prowl for my replacement. That being said, Jaheira does have the best romance related quest, and it's a lot of fun for game play to romance her.

On topic: I fixed the problem by reinstalling the Weimer ease-of-use mutli-romance element. Like you said, must have been something in the override folder. Thanks for the tip!

Sort of on topic: You mentioned improved romance files. I haven't seen any for download anywhere, including here at Sorcerer's (maybe I just missed them?). Long ago I remember someone talking about an improved Jaheira romance file, but no others. Which do you have, and where did you find them?

 

I had this problem with Mazzy when I used the CLUAConsole to enable the appearence of the Ogre in Copper Coronet!!! I was going to tell you to disabled it if it was enabled, but if it's already ok, so forget it!

 

And here I was expecting something related to the protagonist's romance and a threesome

 

Why doesn't THAT surprise me?

I wanted to post a similar thing, but then I realized I'm not the only sicko. I should have expected it. You wouldn't be Faragon if you didn't share my thoughts on this one.

 

I've already posted numerous times that ConcurentRomances cheat is the main source of this "stutter" problem.
It is irrelevant if it's downloaded from SP or installed through Weimer's Ease-of-Use.

Your best option is to reinstall the whole game (but with deleting everything from override folder before installing) or install another cheat that is called HappyParty which will overwrite existing errorneous cheatfiles.

 

Jack of All Trades and Melchizedek? Interesting allusions for a "sicko."

 

Well, I have to add a correction here. The locket sub-quest is totally unrelated to the rest of the romance in the sense that it can happen any time - even after the first lovetalk or you can actually ignore the merchant and avoid this sub-quest. If you do it very early, it does sound odd, I'll admit. Perhaps they should have set some restrictions in that it would only be possible to buy her the locket after, say LoveTalk 40, that would make it more credible.

As for the rest of the romance - I can hardly call the early part of it as a romance. It is all about helping her to cope with the grief and the talking is more about philosophical issues, rather than romantic chatting. I think that the Bandit quest is the cornerstone when she actually admits reluctantly to herself of having feelings for the PC. Also it would be practically impossible to extend the romance much longer for the sake of credibility...

Just my tuppence

 

I admit that if you remove the locket bit, the whole thing is more credible. But I'm guessing that most people hit all the merchants early on the first time they play, so that they can find all the good stuff to buy. If they hit the merchant early, it sets her in a bad light, and gives a different nuance to everything that comes after it--what would otherwise seem innocent now seems suspect.

Still, the dream where Khalid is pleased that Jaheira is walking with the protagonist is pretty early, and that evidences, in my mind, some real sparks on her part, even though her inner conflict doesn't allow them to surface for a while. Plus, all her awkward small talk early on contributes to the impression that she has feelings for the protagonist that are making it difficult for her to continue on an even keel in their supposedly plutonic relationship.

I'm not out to bash her, I just think she's got a significant flaw--not like Aerie and Vicci don't have their share of problems too.

I guess this should have been a new thread, huh?

 

Of course, she has flaws... but I would not care for her if she would be a faultless and flawless personality. It's actually those flaws that make her character so atractive to me.