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Baldur's Gate: EE - Barred from Sale, BG II: EE Delayed

Discussion in 'Game/SP News & Comments' started by RPGWatch, Jun 20, 2013.

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  1. RPGWatch

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    [​IMG]Well it's with sad news I bring word of an official statement posted on the Baldur's Gate website.

    Trent Oster explains that due to legal problems surrounding the Baldur's Gate license, and with the publisher Atari, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition may no longer be purchased from the Apple App Store, or the Beamdog game service.

    Also this means that the release of Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition and patches for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition have both been delayed indefinitely.

    Dear Friends of Baldur's Gate,

    We recently removed Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition from sale on Beamdog and the Apple App Store. We've taken this step at our publishing partner's request as we attempt to resolve a number of contractual issues.

    Unfortunately, until this matter is resolved, we are unable to release the latest Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition patch or Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition for Android.

    This also prevents the launch of Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition. I sincerely apologize to the series' fans and promise we are working diligently to remedy the situation.

    Regards,
    Trent Oster
    President, Beamdog & Overhaul Games​
     
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  2. Taluntain

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    :facepalm:

    This is just awful.
     
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    That's....very disconcerting....
     
    Blades of Vanatar, Jun 20, 2013
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  4. T2Bruno

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    GOG has a sale ... click on the link at the top of page ... BG1 Complete ... BG2 Complete ... get EasyTutu ... you're all set.

    Just sayin'.
     
    T2Bruno, Jun 20, 2013
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  5. Blackthorne TA

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    Heh. That won't work if you want to play on your iOS or Android device :)
     
    Blackthorne TA, Jun 20, 2013
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    Bizarre that all the parties got to well beyond the initial release stage before deciding there was some problem. :bad:
     
    Gaear, Jun 20, 2013
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  7. Blackthorne TA

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    At this point I can only imagine it has to do with money, and who gets how much of what.
     
    Blackthorne TA, Jun 20, 2013
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    What contractual issues can turn up so late after release?
    It's not like some lawyer found some random bit of code or art to copyright. Or is it?
     
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    Like I said: I'd imagine it's money.
     
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    Who knows...Beamdog had agreed to only create new content and improve graphics, not change the original content. Maybe there is an issue there, as their patches/updates have added more content, not just fixed bugs. Like I said, who knows....
     
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    I'm with BTA on this... Atari smelled money to be made by being a pest and since that's one of their few "talents", here we are.
     
    Taluntain, Jun 21, 2013
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    Just one more reason to hate Atari... not like I needed another one.

    Serious, hardcore facepalm on this one! Oh, and this: :bang:
     
    Marceror, Jun 21, 2013
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    Atari ... grrrr... :nolike: ...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Does anyone know what the issue is specifically? The general money answer is kind of obvious (why else would anyone cause a fuss?), but what I don't get is that in order for this project to have taken off at all, contracts with all interested parties would have had to have been finalized long ago. You can't just say "No, I don't like the contract anymore" and back out of it, so someone must be getting sued. Who? Why? For what exactly?
     
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    Actually, you can. It happens all of the time between big businesses. It's not so much of threatening to pull all of the way out, it's more like taking a different stance/changing your stance with a different interpretation all of the sudden on some of the wording. I see it big time in the Aerospace industry. The big guys, escpecially when they are the "Customer" really like to play hard ball about not paying in full. They ask for more and more and give you less and less in return. Who's the bigger company in this issue? Answer that and you'll find your culprit.
     
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    This is pretty infuriating, and here I was hoping they would allow BeamDog to change more in BG2 instead of just adding their own content. Hopefully this all gets resolved quickly so they can go back to working on BG2:EE
     
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    I didn't think BG:EE was such a money-making project that it warranted this kind of interference from Atari (if our assumption about evil Atari is concrete).

    Oh well.
     
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    My guess is Beamdog is perhaps asking for more money, or advances, due to the fact that development is taking a lot longer than originally expected. They have made comments in the past about how, as a small development shop, any delay in their schedule is painful. Perhaps they have run into major issues with the Android version, haven't received full payment, and just can't keep going without some additional influx of funds. And Atari is telling them, too bad. Your contract states x, y and z and so we don't have to pay you another red cent. Or perhaps Atari has decided they just aren't happy with the way things are going, and are trying to pull out.

    I'm totally just spit balling here, of course. Regardless, this doesn't appear to bode well for BG2:EE, much less BG3.

    I'm just grateful for new IPs (Project Eternity, Torment ToN) that aren't tied to D&D/Atari. Never much liked Atari. Used to love D&D CRPGs. Now I think both are pretty much a total waste of time and space.
     
    Marceror, Jun 21, 2013
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    Got my copy at Steam.
     
    Merlanni, Jun 21, 2013
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  20. Blades of Vanatar

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    Blasphemy! "Kneel and Repent!"
     
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