Kangaxx the Demilich

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Honestly, has anyone ever beaten this guy without cheating? If you have, I would surley like to hear the tale and would tip my proverbial adventurer's hat to you. I took my Undead Hunter up to 12th level and armed him with the Holy Avenger I wrested from Firkraag before I attempted Kangaxx. I also had Keldorn in my party who was wielding the Sun Sword (+4 and double damage against undead), Aerie and Nalia blistering with breach and lower resistance spells, Jahiera with her summon woodland being spells and Viconia with false dawn spells. We took out Kangaxx's first incarnation (a normal lich)pretty quickly, but once he rose as the demilich, the party was over (literally!!). Once we would reduce him to "barely injured", he would cast imprisonment on <charname> and that would be it.
I must have attempted him about twenty times before I resorted to Shadow Keeper. Interesting enough, I gave my Undead Hunter 100% magic resistance and reduced all his saving throws to 1 and Kangaxx STILL imprisoned him every time. I think that the game is coded so that you cannot win that battle. I mean, with 100% magic resistance I should not have fell prey to his imprisonment spell every time! Does anybody have any info on this? It would be pretty lame to include a monster that cannot be beaten, especially if it's undead and you are playing an undead hunter. In proper role playing, my character would have been honor bound to kill this creature at any cost. And, to dangle the best ring in the game and the proverbial carrot...

[ May 09, 2003, 06:38: Message edited by: drahala ]

 

Ofcourse he has been beaten without cheating. But it ain't easy. The Demi-lich form needs +4 weapons or better to hit (the sun sword does not hit as +4),he regenerates quite fast and is immune to all 9th level spells and lower.so in the early game without cheese it's nearly impossible to take him out. But as you progress in levels there are many ways to whack him without having to resort to any form of cheating.

The protection from undead&magic scrolls are in the game for a reason for example. use them. it's not cheating. There's a mage spell out there which can protect you from the imprisiment-spell.use summoned monsters as fodder.use that ring of ram etc etc

 

Protection from Magic scroll + Staff of Magi or Holy Avenger or any +4 or better weapon. Easy.

 

Keep in mind he gets imprisonment at will. And after he stops using that (I managed to protect all my people by using summoned things) he starts a blasting away with high level spells like meteor swarm, delayedblast fireball and horrid wilting. He is not an easy fight... Also I figure he has damage resistance of something/+6. +6 weapons seem to do normal damage to him. (note, this was after TOB) I fought him during SOA as high level characters and it was not easy. I also fought him with the mod that makes him tougher instead of using imprisonment all the time... That took level 34+ characters to beat him... He is not an easy kill but well worth it. His rings are the best in the game. I forget what spell it is but it protects specifiacally against imprisonment. Kill him before he starts killing your people with his nasty spells.

 

Kangaxx is a tough guy , thats fer sure...but can be easyly beaten if you pay attencion to certain things in the game...like...the existence of the undead and magic protection scrolls.They are good agaisnt kangaxx but better than that is the lv 5 mage spell...Spell immunity ...that protects you from imprisonemt....BTW magic resistance doesnt matter against imprisionament spell...sme thing for saving throwns...read the manual first ok?

 

errr? excuse me but WHERE is Kangaxx? ( I know... WHAT A SHAME) I beat the saga twice and I never found this dreadfull foe, This game will always suprise me! No spell work? I think my Sorc will have a HARD TIME,
"hooray I throw bullet to a Undead mage "

 

I decided to test my skills against this guy at last, his ordinary lich form took a severe battering, but when he became a demilich, people jus disappeared i take it when he does imprisonment they don't come back?
Is there anything that can prevent this spell from working?

Despite people disappearing I have managed to beat him.

 

I'm sure most people figured this out, but changing your main character into the "monster" is an easy way to kill Kangaxx.

For some reason, when transformed, you are immune to Imprisonment.

Then I had to run the rest of my party away from him for about 3 minutes until it wore off.

Does that count as cheating?

 

Javalar,

Yes, yes it does.

Unless by "monster" you mean using one of your standard shapeshifting forms... but NOT making yourself a Red Dragon!

In fact, I just beat Kangaxx this weekend... and in the usual way... after getting beaten several times...

I just: a) summoned creatures with an eye to send at the first guy, and pummel with mini meteors, some arrows got through (? not sure how, could be breach, etc) and Minsc got in a few whacks late with Lilacor. Keldon with a protection from magic soaked up spells after the summoned creatures - 3 batches of them soaked up most of his fury.

Demi Lich: I sent in my mage with Spell immunity - abj up front to soak up the imprisionment spells and more summoned creatures while Keldorn with +5 sword whacked over her head. The other mage sent in more meteors, Cleric did 2 doom bolts, ram ring, and Nalia cast Daystar's spell - dead.

Of course they were all protected from evil, undead, aided, blessed, hasted, and fried in pure vegetable oil so they wouldn't stick...

Maybe the game got tired of beating me.... but has anyone noticed that fights get easier after a few losses? or is it just my imagination?

[ May 27, 2003, 22:11: Message edited by: spoogemonkey ]

 

Ill tell u how i did it.....

It requires either Keldorn or ur own character to be a paladin, and u must have beaten Firkraag (to get the Carsomyr) also, u must have a berseker (minsc, korgan)

There is method behind the madness... a berseker using their unique Berserk skill are immune to imprisonment... so the idea is.. get ur beserked berserker to stand in as close proximity to the kangaax and possible (or, at the very least... closer than ur paladin) so, while kangaax wastes his imprisonments on a character on which it has no effect, he is taking damage from ur palading

U may need to berserk ur fighter a couple of times, depending on how good ur palading is.... it may take a few quick loads and a few dozen, but this is the way i did it, there may be a better way, but i have used this method about 4 times... never failed me..

Hopes this helps!

edit: Btw, reading back thru a few posts, i wud just like to point out: Imprisionment is an 'unsavorable spell' saving throws have no effect, if it is cast on u, ur are gone (unless of course u are berserked... or some other way i have yet to find out)

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[ May 28, 2003, 04:58: Message edited by: Blackthorne TA ]

 

I disagree with the assertion that using the slayer to kill Kangaxx claffifies as cheating. If using the Slayer transformation to kill him is cheating, then isn't the berzerker's rage cheating as well? Of course not; it's just an ability that your character has that just happens to be useful in this particular situation. Using a cheezy bug like fake talking is cheating. Using the slayer transformation is a tactic, and a pretty effective one in this case.

 

Six words how I did it: Fifty Melf's Minute Meteors, Spell Immunity.

Two words for Spitfire: Forum Rules.

 

Oops, sorry all...

I'm afraid I neglected to read the forum rules before posting

I apologise unreservedly for any inconvenience or irritation I may have caused with my disgraceful lack of intelligence and 'proper' English. I can promise you that it will not happen again, all future posts will (hopefully!) abide by the forum regulations.

Forgiven?

 

I've never battled this lich, but I don't see it as being difficult. Every lich I've fought so far, I did so with a solo character and found it to be a cakewalk, including Shangalar. On level 13, may I add.

Everyone says he's hard, and he wasn't, so what's to stop Kangaxx from being a thousand year old pushover?

Once I find him, I'll be added to the roster who killed him, not only without cheating, but also with a solo character, most likely low level as well!

 

I am aware that if *you* can't do it, you'll never believe that *I* can. Such is life. It's called jealous denial.

Cheesy tactics? Like?