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Why Ranger cannot be dual-classed? I think it is something about the multiclassing combinations.Why there isn't combo starting with ranger (for expample ranger/mage or ranger/figter )?

 

Ranger can be dualclassed to cleric.

 

But why bother??
Ranger is just a goody-two-shoes version of a fighter!!

A Ranger /Cleric will never rival a fighter(Or Kensai) mage!!
And all that you gain is charm animal

 

[*]Draconis ,
you are an ignorant idiot. [Now, now, we can do without the personal attacks - BTA] Ranger-Clerics gain acess to both cleric and druid spells. And this especially makes the Ranger-Cleric so interesting. He can also cast his spells in armor. He has access to so powerful spells like creeping death, poison, insect plague (try to cast spells under these ...). Another interesting aspect of a ranger-cleric is the ability to cast power boosting cleric spells increasing the stats and THACO (he has a much wider variety to choose of than a mage) resulting in a formidable melee power. He can also cast the evergreens defensive harmony, sanctuary, bless, barkskin, ironskin, regeneration and such. A skilled player's ranger-cleric is a very powerful char, either dual- or multiclassed.

I think I pointed out that a ranger-cleric has a little more to offer than just charm animal. Draconis, I think you clearly underestimate the ranger-cleric, obviously because you don't know what your talking about. Stop bashing other peoples choices unless you come along with arguments

[*]ivanatora ,
First, you were right about the multiclass rule: You can dual into every valid multiclass combo. Your next question was: Why not a ranger-fighter? Well, the ranger is actually a fighter kit already, so you'd end up with a fighter-fighter ... as for ranger-mage: These combo also is no valid mc combo. Actually these allowed combos are from 2nd edition ad&d, the makers of BG-2 had to take them over for their game. However, 3rd edition, as it will be used for IWD-2, will allow every possible mc combo, with the exception of limited choises for paladins and monks
The mc ranger-clerics stat requirements if I got the IEE right are: str-13, dex-13, con-14, wis-14 (means: you should have these values at least).

When your char doesn't meet all requirements, you can't dual. Though remember I have I heared that you'll have to have 17 in the primary stat of the class you want to dual to as well (that'd be 17 in wis). So, not knowing your chars stats I can't tell you more, but it's most likely it doesn't work because of your chars stats. So if you want to know more you have two choices:

Either you run a search on SPs forums (aka "the wonderous treasure of replies") for "dual"/"duaclass"/"ranger-cleric" and such or post again here with better info about your char

[This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited May 25, 2002).]

[This message has been edited by Ragusa (edited May 25, 2002).]

 

*Sigh* Here i go again. Defending the ranger class to people seems to be my role in life the past couple od weeks.
Firstly, if the ranger was just a good aligned fighter don't you think that he wouldn't exist in the rules? It's his special abilities that make him different. And yes, rangers shouldn't be able to stand up to fighters of the same level toe to toe, but thats not the point of them. They advance slower because of their special abilties that they get, in BG2 most notably spell casting abilities at a certain level and also free stars in two weapon fighting. Although i have to admit i've never been that keen on ranger/clerics, prefering fighter clerics. Now ranger/rougues in 3rd ed. which i happen to be playing just now, that makes me smile .
Back the original post, you can only dual into a class that your current class could multiclass as. Roll on IWD 2 though for more freedom.

 

OK OK , I apologise for my hasty condemming of Rangers!! As I've never used one as a player character my experience of them is limited to Minsc and Valygar
What you have said about Ranger/Clerics has got my interest and I'll give it a try!

 

NOOO!
Don't try the Ranger/Cleric!!

I tried the MC Ranger/Cleric and now I don't want to play any other class anymore...

BtW:
IIRC, only half-elves can become a (MC) Cleric/Ranger.

[This message has been edited by Master of Nuhn (edited May 26, 2002).]

 

NEver liked a mace or hammer wielding ranger...They should use sword(s), a spear or ofcource a bow. But if ye got TDD you could make a slinger (thats a ranger isnt it??) and dual it to cleric...
Like stalkers best, then archers.
Never use plate on a ranger, if so they only go charm animals and low lvl druidspells as advantage over fighters. They shoud stealth and backstabb. They live in the wilderness and climbs and swims and hides. Thats impossible woth plate. I know ye cant swim and climb in bg, but it ruins the feeling anyway. So in my oppinion stalkers got no real disadvantage...

 

Draconis

I actually agree that ranger's are goody-good-to-shoe fighter's.But they can kick ass really nicely

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[This message has been edited by Padine the Paladin (edited May 26, 2002).]

 

What? like your Paladin?
I have a problem..my female ranger (lev17 - Stalker) wont seem to want to DualClass to a cleric.

Here are her stats (from BG1 too)

STR - 18/76
DEX - 19
CON - 17
INT - 14
WIS - 17
CHA - 13

Tell me why i cant dual class.

 

Possibly a silly question, but what race are you as only humans can dual class...
Failing that, don't know, maybe its a strange bug or something.

 

Nothing strange. Looking at the 19 Dex, I'm assuming you're playing a elf. Only humans can dualclass. That's your problem right there.

 

I told you i was playing from BG1 Faragon.
There are 6 Tomes in BG1 that allow you to increase each of your stats.

Im human.

Manual Of Gainful Exercise (or something)
This tome...bla bla.....increases Dexterity by one point.

Hence the 19 Dex and the 17 Wis i have.
I started with 18dex and 16wis and 12cha.

So please tell me why i cant dual-class.
I could not dual-class in BG1 either, when i was a plain ranger. Is this a bug?

[edit] I've been playing BG1 & 2 for nearly 2 years now Faragon, of course only humans can dual-class, what do you take me for!? [edit]

[This message has been edited by Gopher (edited May 27, 2002).]

 

Stalker has to have dex and str 15 and wis 17 to be able to dual to cleric.

Since you have it all, I bet you have some 3rd party mod bugged dualclassing tables. If I'm right, uninstall mods.

Oh, btw, are you trying to dual now in the middle of the game or when you get new level?

[This message has been edited by Extremist (edited May 27, 2002).]

 

I've tried right now... Level up to level 18.
And before during my 17th level.

Still doesnt work.

 

It seems that I read something quite a while ago about the game developers making it impossible to Dual a Stalker into a cleric bcause it made the game buggy or something. I'm not sure where I read it, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

Right...i've just UNinstalled BG2, then installed it again..started a new game with a plain Human ranger..stats:

STR 17
DEX 17
CON 17
INT 9
WIS 17
CHA 9

Took me a while...

STILL cant dual-class..doesnt work for a Cleric---> Ranger either. grrrrr :flames:

 

Sorry, I kinda read over the BG1 part

You knew that already? I'm no longer alone in my infinite wisdom

 

I'm not sure who is more crazy here, me for actually checking this or you for speculation over massacred games.

I've started a new game with CG stalker who has these skills:
STR 18/48
DEX 18
WIS 18
CON 14
INT 14
CHR 3
LongSword **
QuarterStaff **
SingleWeaponStyle **

And? Of course he CAN dual to cleric!

Now, make a CLEAN installation (that means REMOVE everything from override folder after uninstallation). And don't install mods you're used to, especially not some happyparties because of XPcap at level 98457893465789635898 with grand mastery that allows seven stars in darts and fifteen stars in all other weapons.

DC removed deliberately because of bug with stalkers? Geez...


[This message has been edited by Extremist (edited May 28, 2002).]

 

Eheheerrr... I 've just tried doing the same and it wouldn't dual. More precisely: a ranger->cleric worked but not stalker DC to cleric. Both had similar stats: 18s in Str, Con, Wis and Dex and 3 or so for Int and Ch. Any ideas (e.g. both groundhog and me (but not extremist) have ToB installed?)?