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Cleric, multiclass?

Discussion in 'Icewind Dale 2' started by Goli Ironhead, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. Goli Ironhead Gems: 16/31
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    I'm playing Silverstar Of Selune lvl 6, and i'm pretty tired about his weakness in battle.Sure, he can animate dead, but after that (and some buffs/curses)He's generaly useless(hits enemy about once in 10 hits).I'm thinking about multiclassing. Fighting classes are out of question and also Charisma-based classes, also rogue (Dex:10, str:12, con10, cha:11).So, mage is my choice.Should i make specialist mage, how many levels to give to him, and where i can find spell scrolls?Or, multiclass to Druid?
     
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    With those stats, what were you expecting anyway? BAB of 5 ain't gonna hit nothing.
    What race is this charecter? Is it a solo?
    A shape-changed Druid could be effective in melee.
    Taking a specialist mage wont be a problem since you will be able to scribe scrolls of any class. But this one will be pathetic with weapons.
     
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    Half-elf, With party of 6 (cleric included)
     
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    Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Veteran

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    A good combo for Clerics is to make Sorcerers or Bards out of them (preferably a Sorcerer)
    CHA is the most important stat for these spellcasters and CHA is useful if your Cleric is to be able to turn undead.
    Average stats are not great, you'd better max a few stats to get the most out of them. Next time consider a Drow female Cleric/Sorcerer ;)
    I prefer Sorcerer to Mage because high CHA is more useful to a Cleric than INT, besides Sorcerer spells (provided you make the right choices) can be used without having to plan beforehand.
    Some arcane power can really help a Cleric to get started Clerics although they are a great asset to any party suffer from a lack of offensive power early on.
    Half Elf is only a good choice if you don't want to go with the average human and want to try some weird combination of classes.

    Icewind Dale 2 is mainly about planning the right party, don't worry if you don't get it right in your first run through the game, once you get the game mechanics right you can really plan your character's evolution, actually you'd better know right from the start what classes you're going to give that character and how many levels.
     
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    I've played trough it already, twice just never tried multi-classing.And indeed, i HATE humans over all other races.
     
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    Caradhras I may be bad... but I feel gooood! Veteran

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    Humans can be great with a high number of feats and skillpoints not mentioning their flexibility, still it's a matter of taste. ;)

    Multiclassing allows you to get some extra perks for your character before concentrating your attention on his/her main class (for instance giving one level of Paladin to a character before turning him into a Sorcerer). To get the most out of it you have to plan things with care.

    Do you always play with a 6 characters party? Have you considered soloing?
     
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    Looking at your other stats, I would think you have poured everything into Wis and Int. So your earlier options of Druid or Wizard seem fine.

    If you already have a mage however, dont go in for a second. There just aren't too many arcane scrolls found as loot. You would really get pissed off spending all that gold on scrolls.
    When it comes to arcane casting, I prefer Sorcerers to Mages anyday, the wizard only being secondary to the sorc. Some people argue that the versatality of mages makes them better, but sorcerers really are more powerful.
    When choosing a specialist mage, make sure that conjuration is not an opposition spell. You will then be able to cast summons from scrolls if needed.

    Take the Druid only if you need some more upfront melee power and intend to shapeshift a lot. The druid gets important spells at a later stage than the cleric.
    If you have installed the druid spell and shapeshift rebalancing components of the ease-of-use however, then be warned. The druid class is now game-breakingly uber powered.

    Obviously sorcerer is not an option for this charecter. But you can consider a Bard. Give him the 'singing bard' script and forget about him.

    I would have picked a Human over a HalfElf, but thats your playing style.

    Also, other melee classes are not automatically taboo for this guy, considering that your ability to hit is dependant on your BAB and most of the damage comes from the weapon rolls. Yes he wont be the best, but its still workable. Maybe convert him to a paladin if you dont have one already.
    If you have high enough Int, you could even try the Rouge, since skill points are based on Int and Dex modifier is only added to them.
     
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    try druid/cleric 15/15 max wisdom, strength (or depend on shapeshift after u use ur spells) constitution, and dex or just wear heavy armor, u won't have great reflex saves though. good cleric classes are lathander, talos, selune, and tempus (via ken egervari's upp faq) anyway if you don't like humans try other classes with high wisdom bonuses, personally I don't give a damn if charisma gives a bonus to turn undead, undead are only a rare occurence in the game. put points in spellcraft if you wnat the extra 10% added damage to elemental spells (i.e. fire, cold, acid) or just max out concentration. If you want give your cleric weapon focus in maces, so you can wack golems too. Clerics are fun to play and vital to any party, and more powerful than a druid, at least without the ease of use mod.
     
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    @Dias: CHA is the most important trait for Sorcerer, the point is that a Cleric with a high WIS and CHA would benefit from a better Turn Undead ability AND as a Sorcerer a better arcane spell casting. Just a way to combine useful stats for both classes.
     
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    Go for druid - at least this way you can help somewhat on the frontlines t level 5 and once you get polar bear form youll be as good as a frontline fighter - in addition you get the decent(not as good as mage or cleric spells) to cast when you are injured and cant melee anymore.

    Mage isnt a great idea as mages depend heavily on higher levels, and youd be underpowered all game.

    In anycase most selune domain spells are from the druid class, so you still get the same 'feel' character. And a shapechaged druid is a better fighter than any possible variant for this set of stats.
     
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    The problem with going for Druid or Wizard is the fact that you won't get access to the good spells because you'll always have a lower caster level.

    The druid's shapechange abilities are main thing you'd get by going the druid route.

    Why not just ditch the character altogether? You could then add a new character to your party at whatever point in the game you are at. Although they would be level 1, they will level up fast as your party's overall XP average will be lowered.
     
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    I'll try, thanks for answers.
     
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